If this has already been discussed, I missed it, and please shut it down mods. I found this really disturbing, I hope it's not true. If Porsche does this I might think about going to Ferrari for my sports cars. I really don't want to, but a Porsche shouldn't be as common as a freaking BMW in my opinion, and with a four door on the way, an SUV, a mini SUV in talks, and a hatch in talks, it's looking bad.
http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/05/09/porsche-working-on-a-porsche-golf-for-2012/

thats terrible, i agree that Porsche needs to expand their market and build more cars, but an 'economy' Porsche does NOT work; especially when its just a rebadged Volkswagen.

definatley NO .. not in Porsche's heritage to produce an "economy" car at aLL ..

noooo!!!! ^^ couldn't've said it better myself S-Tune.

What a relief. I was really hoping I wouldn't see a bunch of people in favor for it. If this falls through, I hope they don't design a mini van.:p It just seems as of late Porsche care more about making money than keeping the brand exclusive.

If this has already been discussed, I missed it, and please shut it down mods. I found this really disturbing, I hope it's not true. If Porsche does this I might think about going to Ferrari for my sports cars. I really don't want to, but a Porsche shouldn't be as common as a freaking BMW in my opinion, and with a four door on the way, an SUV, a mini SUV in talks, and a hatch in talks, it's looking bad.
http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/05/09/porsche-working-on-a-porsche-golf-for-2012/
yeah, it sounds really bad...a Golf-based Porsche? what's next a 911-powered/rebadged VW Sharan?

Hey I will be honest not a bad idea ! (awaits a barage of insults)

So Porsche wanna make more money So ! Business is all about making money ! Hell If I was the MD of Porsche I would do anything to make money !

Interesting to see what engines they would use or engine ?

Remember the 914, anyone? That was a joint VW/Porsche venture, and it was amazing! Them working together can't be all bad. I worry about another SUV, but like the fella above me (Nemphis) said, it's all about the Benjamins, and Porsche would obviously like a bigger hunk of market share now that they've basically bought out VW.

I wouldn't downplay this quite yet. It could be the start of quite a cool line of cars from both companies. My only concern will be price. The Porsche badge adds quite a bit of $$ to any car, as the Cayenne demonstrates.

definatley NO .. not in Porsche's heritage to produce an "economy" car at aLL ..

Agreed, they should stick to things that they know...like SUV's.

But seriously, I don't think that if they were to produce a hatch it would be considered "economy"

its risky business though taking a luxury brand name and sticking it onto a cheap car. Porsche could make it work like they did so wonderfully with the 914 VTEC mentioned, but i doubt it could work. just my opinion.

Remember the 914, anyone? That was a joint VW/Porsche venture, and it was amazing! Them working together can't be all bad. I worry about another SUV, but like the fella above me (Nemphis) said, it's all about the Benjamins, and Porsche would obviously like a bigger hunk of market share now that they've basically bought out VW.

I wouldn't downplay this quite yet. It could be the start of quite a cool line of cars from both companies. My only concern will be price. The Porsche badge adds quite a bit of $$ to any car, as the Cayenne demonstrates.

You are absolutely correct about that. But that car was a midengine rear drive, 2 seater targa. A proper sports car. A hatch is in a much lower league than that, and they have the Cayman and the Boxster as their "cheap" cars. I'm only concerned about them going too cheap, and flooding the market with too many P-cars. But you make an excellent point.


To Nemphis: Ferry Porsche once said his company will ONLY MAKE SPORTS CARS. Porsche has already ruined that one with the SUV. A hatch is a hatch, not a sports car, though it is very "sporty." About them wanting to make money. They already make more profit than anyone else is the world. They could do so much more with the company like more factory backed racing, and building up their old reputation as giant slayers at the track. Focus on making the 911, Boxster, and Cayman better cars, and perhaps dropping a 4 door, and make a new 928. Not to mention they have VW to fall back on. But you have your views, and I have mine. Thanks for your input.:cool:

The idea itself sounds good, but it should be derived completely in house, not based on an existing model. im really scared about the mini suv model though

The idea itself sounds good, but it should be derived completely in house, not based on an existing model. im really scared about the mini suv model though
We all are my friend. I'm going to go throw up now.

It could be a very good car if its cheap. If it comes into the 18,000-25,000 pound area then I think it will sell. Everybody loves Porsches, so why have that Focus ST when you can have a Porsche instead?

It could be a very good car if its cheap. If it comes into the 18,000-25,000 pound area then I think it will sell. Everybody loves Porsches, so why have that Focus ST when you can have a Porsche instead?
It would never be that cheap, but would you really want to see Porsche's as much as you see a Ford?

^^Hell no ,, im already fed up seeing 10+ Cayenne's a Day .. i cant imagine seeing a Porsche everywhere i go .. some Exclusiveness please !

For those of you concerned about how common it will be, all Porsche has to do is keep the production numbers limited, problem solved. Scion did the same thing, they limited production of their models for a more exclusive image.

If it's true that F. Porsche dedicated his company to sports cars, teh Ceyenne is a total disgrace to the brand. A hot hatch will piss off the Porsche fans even more. I stick to tradition (usually), and I think it's horrible tradition wise.

BUT, I see a huge opportunity for this Golf to be used in rallying. If Porsche made a rally homologation version for rallying (of course, with AWD), it'd make it more sought after. Hot hatches dominate the WRC, and I really believe that rallying it will make the current WRC competition more fun, since the other manufacturers pulled out (it's only Ford and Subaru factory teams).....

Well,, not necessarily to build a new platfrom (Golf) .. why not build it on something like the Current 997 Turbo ,, and lift it and do all necessary stuff to keep it rally spec.. or is the Turbo not applicable for some WRC rules ??

It could be a very good car if its cheap. If it comes into the 18,000-25,000 pound area then I think it will sell. Everybody loves Porsches, so why have that Focus ST when you can have a Porsche instead?

Thats a bad move for porsche, suicide infact, if they did price it like that.

For those of you concerned about how common it will be, all Porsche has to do is keep the production numbers limited, problem solved. Scion did the same thing, they limited production of their models for a more exclusive image.

If it's true that F. Porsche dedicated his company to sports cars, teh Ceyenne is a total disgrace to the brand. A hot hatch will piss off the Porsche fans even more. I stick to tradition (usually), and I think it's horrible tradition wise.

BUT, I see a huge opportunity for this Golf to be used in rallying. If Porsche made a rally homologation version for rallying (of course, with AWD), it'd make it more sought after. Hot hatches dominate the WRC, and I really believe that rallying it will make the current WRC competition more fun, since the other manufacturers pulled out (it's only Ford and Subaru factory teams).....

^what a smart idea, limite production to 100,000 like scion did! i'm being sarcastic, but lol, limiting scions, i only see them everywhere i go.



you CANNOT bring a luxury brand into America and market it as something everyone can buy, you cannot take a Porsche and have it be priced with fords, golfs, etc. It does not work. Porsche would not do this, they would make something like the Audi A3, a overely expensive golf. This is still a bad idea because Porsche is a sportscar brand, they just cannot build a small hatchback.

They made the Cayenne, and why did this work? it was still somewhat expensive, and it fit into the market perfectly. I don't see a hatchback doing that.

definatley NO .. not in Porsche's heritage to produce an "economy" car at aLL ..
Well Porsches done it before, they'll do it again. Ever heard of a 912, 924, or 914, all cheaper and more economical than thier counterparts.

Well Porsches done it before, they'll do it again. Ever heard of a 912, 924, or 914, all cheaper and more economical than thier counterparts.
The 912, was still VERY much a sports car. Rear engine rear drive, lightweight, but cheaper than the 911. The Boxster and the Cayman are cheaper than the 911, and they are still sports cars.

The 924, lightweight front engine, rear drive, 2 door coupe.

The 914, midengine, 2 seater, rear drive, lightweight.

All of these are sports cars, they still kept the sportscar formula for all of them. You can't say the same for any hatch. I love the Mini Cooper to death, but it is simply not a sportscar, I don't car if a hatch has the Lambo badge on it, it simply is not a sportscar. If Porsche make another vehicle that isn't, it will ruin their image slowly yet surely.

Made that VW RWD, and i'll buy it !

Hmm... I don't know. At first, I was thinking, "What???" but now I'm just not sure...

I love hatchbacks, I love PORSCHE, but I dont like the idea of a PORTSCHE suped up GTI. I think sharing platforms sucks but I do believe PORSCHE needs more than just a 911 to compete with others because the have no equal . If they ever did make a hatchback Id expect more from them than that pic I saw a little more tough. Think if the 959 stuck with rallying im sure the would have had some sort of hatchback derived from it.:-k

Porsche doesn't make ugly cars. To my knowledge...they never have made an UGLY car. They've made some "only decent" looking cars. But never ugly. That hatch on the other link is ugly looking. Keep in mind, I said CARS, the Cayanne ain't exactly a looker, but then again, it did start out in the wrong direction in life as an SUV, so you can't put too much blame on it.

The 912, was still VERY much a sports car. Rear engine rear drive, lightweight, but cheaper than the 911. The Boxster and the Cayman are cheaper than the 911, and they are still sports cars.

The 924, lightweight front engine, rear drive, 2 door coupe.

The 914, midengine, 2 seater, rear drive, lightweight.

All of these are sports cars, they still kept the sportscar formula for all of them. You can't say the same for any hatch. I love the Mini Cooper to death, but it is simply not a sportscar, I don't car if a hatch has the Lambo badge on it, it simply is not a sportscar. If Porsche make another vehicle that isn't, it will ruin their image slowly yet surely.
You've made a good point, but I was just saying that the cars I listed are light weights compared to other Porsches. I think that a stupid Porsche Golf woud be the modern version of these cars.

If it was pretty than i may consider. BUT!!! it looks horrible. This just turns the VW golf into a poor man's porsche. Just like how the Tourag is the poor man's cayenne.

if it will bring back the fist car i ever wanted; the 944, then, um.....maybe? but if it really is just a porsche badges gol, then **** it. Buy a gol for 15k less.

I don't see the problem personally. Other car companies put different engines in their cars, and people still buy them. You can have a Range Rover with a supercharged 4.2 L V8 or with a diesel engine, and the same is true of many different cars. Porsche want to differentiate their brand and are following the trend among German car producers. I wouldn't necessarily buy the car, but I am not very bothered. I voted I don't care at all.

gosh, its like Lambo getting Audi's Quattro...

this is ugly, porsche shouldnt be doing these stuff, Porsche is meant to produce sportscars, not hatchbacks, the Cayenne shouldnt be produced and it was just because Porsche was lazy and wanted the looks of the 911 on an SUV...

anyways, this looks absolutley horrible, its like some sort of that Panerama, whatever its called, its just like a 911 front with a horrible front bumper, some lotus side vents, the VW IROC concept side, and a toyota rear end...its ugly

Heck no!! They are taking like 30 steps backwards!!

For those of us who hate clicking on links....

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/porsche_golf_in_works_main.jpg

Anyway, my opinion, it looks alright, it doesn't seem 'horrible' to me, nor does it seem 'excellent' to me either. It looks weird, but alright as well, the front does look a bit dodgy, it looks like an SUV and a coupe and a hatchback all combined... The rear taillights do look similar to the vauxhall astra SRi Turbo taillights from this view though.

I don't think this will sell either, I just think it just won't blend in like a new car as well as the other new cars.

I don't think it's the best way to go for Porsche. Porsche usually makes brilliant and cool sportscars and supercars but suddenly they want to make a small hatchback. Thats a giant leap forward or behind depending on if it will attract customers or not. If it is better than BMW then way to go, but if not then i recommend they don't coz' they're just wasting money...

Bad Bad Bad
The point to hot hatch is to get a car that does everything at a cheap price, and a good bit revolves around being FWD, because there are probelms with RWD
-worse in wet or snow
-worse interior space
-more expensive
-not as safe to drive
Now those are points that you don't want in a hot hatch, and porsche are most likely to stick with RWD, thus they will be just like the BMW 1-series, great to drive, but not worth the price due to those probelms. But if porsche go with FWD it will be alot better, but lack of experience with FWD might effect them, but then VW are on hand, so no probelm.

To be honest, I don't really see the problem. Everyone's having a tiff just because it's got a Porsche badge on it. If it was some other company who made hatches, we would be like ''Oh wow look at that, a cool little hatch!'', and ''Oh cool. How economical is it?''. But instead of that we get ''Oh no, Porsche can't do that, that's terrible'', and ''A hatch? A hatch?''.

If Porsche want to do it, let them do it. Yeah, they make sports cars, but this isn't too bad. Everyone hated the Cayenne when it came out, but it sold loads, and now everyone's got used to it, same might happen here.

I think it all depends on how affordable it is and how great the car is going to perform and look.

If it's true that F. Porsche dedicated his company to sports cars, teh Ceyenne is a total disgrace to the brand. A hot hatch will piss off the Porsche fans even more. I stick to tradition (usually), and I think it's horrible tradition wise.The problem with that is that Porsche drivers don't care if it pisses off Porsche fans. If you understand Porsches then you will understand my meaning.

Well Porsches done it before, they'll do it again. Ever heard of a 912, 924, or 914, all cheaper and more economical than thier counterparts.How much do you know about the 912? lol

If Porsche want to do it, let them do it. Yeah, they make sports cars, but this isn't too bad. Everyone hated the Cayenne when it came out, but it sold loads, and now everyone's got used to it, same might happen here.Porsche will do what they feel their drivers want. No offense to anyone here but a bunch of underage people that can't drive anyway is not what they worry about.

thats terrible, i agree that Porsche needs to expand their market and build more cars, but an 'economy' Porsche does NOT work; especially when its just a rebadged Volkswagen.
Yeah, I agree, Porsche could make a much better car than that. That isn't even a car, it's a 'thing', honestly, it's worse than Daewoo rebadging to Chevrolet..haha

Porsche will do what they feel their drivers want. No offense to anyone here but a bunch of underage people that can't drive anyway is not what they worry about.

True ! As I said in an earlier post its all about the money plus expanding the model range. I mean it will go against I'm presuming the Golf R32, Astra VXR, Focus ST etc.

So its not as if Porsche is making a car for a market is not there !

Yeah, I agree, Porsche could make a much better car than that. That isn't even a car, it's a 'thing', honestly, it's worse than Daewoo rebadging to Chevrolet..haha

As long has it is built from the ground up by Porsche it will ok but if it contains bits of VW group buttons, interior etc then it will be crap !

and its not worse than putting a Chevrolet badge on a Daewoo lol

Its a very good idea if you ask me lol !

You guys don't realize how closely tied together Porsche and VW are, do you? They're VERY tightly intertwined.

^^ Yes, but copying cars is not nesscesary! They can make their own cars!

True, porsche and volkswagen have also been as close as brothers, all the back to the start, the only real reason porsche are taking over volkswagen is so that no one else can, and to have that much trust shows alot.
Even look at the first VW beetle, it was rear engined, just like a 911

I'm sure the same guy designed both cars...^

:(..............bad idea!!!

ouch... all it'll do is water down the Porsche brand :-k.

similar to what Jaguar did with the X-Type... all that did was waste money for them, as it sold crap. i think they're nice, myself, but i admit that it's a dated car. facelift should be here soon though, lets see :-k.

but yeah... why why why. they should just make more sports/luxury cars... another real supercar (not like the 911 Turbo, that's not really proper) would be cool :).

^^ I guess they need it to supply a different, affordable..*cough*cough* market.

I don't think Porsche management are quite as stupid as some people on this forum like to think. Also how do you know whether the car will sell or not? Porsche must surely do some research into whether a market exists before deciding to spend money launching a new product. I think there probably will be a market for this car, perhaps not a big market but a market. I probably wouldn't want one myself but that doesn't mean it won't sell. Also "nothing ventured, nothing gained" as the old adage goes.

I don't think Porsche management are quite as stupid as some people on this forum like to think. Also how do you know whether the car will sell or not? Porsche must surely do some research into whether a market exists before deciding to spend money launching a new product. I think there probably will be a market for this car, perhaps not a big market but a market. I probably wouldn't want one myself but that doesn't mean it won't sell. Also "nothing ventured, nothing gained" as the old adage goes.
That's not the point at all. Of course it will sell. They sold the Cayenne with no problem, they could do a hatch. Porsche marketing is VERY impressive. And that's the problem. They now seem to have a habit of mass producing their cars, which in turn just diminishes the value of the car a lot quicker than they used to. The fact that you can now buy a 996 these days for $25,000 is ridiculous. They sell for less than most 993 models. And when you mass produce a car, it's no longer special, or as special as it was. That's what die hard Porsche fans hate the thought of.

Like I said earlier, they need to get back into some good factory backed racing. Forget the 4 door, forget the hatch, forget the mini SUV. That's just my opinion.

For me i don't care how many of one car they build. If its good to drive who cares. If your driving along your not about to say "i wish i bought a worse car, thats more exclusive"
What porsche does works, and they can prove, simply because they are the only big car maker thats stil independent.

For me i don't care how many of one car they build. If its good to drive who cares. If your driving along your not about to say "i wish i bought a worse car, thats more exclusive"
What porsche does works, and they can prove, simply because they are the only big car maker thats stil independent.
Ok, well those of us who own Porsche's know that what you said is a load of crap. Ever hear of depreciation? When you buy a car as expensive as a 911, that is the worst word, other than RMS.:p But when you mass produce, it takes away exclusivity, diminishes the value, waters down the marque, ect... You just don't do that. With your mentality, Ferrari should be making mini vans, Lambo should make an electric car.

There's Gonna Be A Ferrari Minivan! No Way! Tahts Gonna Be Uber Kewl!!!!!11!!!!!!

I stewed on this predicament a bit and I think I've got a grasp on an opinion.

This could be awesome if it's done right. Luckily, Porsche does a lot of things right.

Porsche was always a black sheep in the high performance sportscar world. I mean, really, who else has had a rear engined car that beat the pants off of all the other cars with the engines in the "right" place? So, how about the highest performing car in every segment they can get thier grubby paws on?

Why not have the most kick-ass hot hatch in the history of hot hatches?
Why not have the most kick-ass sports sedan in the history of sports sedans?

I mean, so there would be a few more on the road. So what. Everyone and thier sister owns a 911 anyhow. Low(er than Ferrari) price is what makes Porsche's sell as well as they do, and I don't know if having a full-ish lineup would be so horrible. If resale is based on "brand recognition" and rarity, then how do you reckon that the Accord has the highest resale of any car on the market? Solid credentials. Porsche has them in spades and I think they could use it to build an advantage over every maker in the world. Using VW's money, of course.

I wouldn't call it "watering down" the brand. I'd call it kicking the crap out of everyone else at thier own game, but doing it in the usual unusual Porsche fashion.

I stewed on this predicament a bit and I think I've got a grasp on an opinion.

This could be awesome if it's done right. Luckily, Porsche does a lot of things right.

Porsche was always a black sheep in the high performance sportscar world. I mean, really, who else has had a rear engined car that beat the pants off of all the other cars with the engines in the "right" place? So, how about the highest performing car in every segment they can get thier grubby paws on?

Why not have the most kick-ass hot hatch in the history of hot hatches?
Why not have the most kick-ass sports sedan in the history of sports sedans?

I mean, so there would be a few more on the road. So what. Everyone and thier sister owns a 911 anyhow. Low(er than Ferrari) price is what makes Porsche's sell as well as they do, and I don't know if having a full-ish lineup would be so horrible. If resale is based on "brand recognition" and rarity, then how do you reckon that the Accord has the highest resale of any car on the market? Solid credentials. Porsche has them in spades and I think they could use it to build an advantage over every maker in the world. Using VW's money, of course.

I wouldn't call it "watering down" the brand. I'd call it kicking the crap out of everyone else at thier own game, but doing it in the usual unusual Porsche fashion.
I think this was extremely well written, and makes a lot of sense to most normal people. But I'm not normal, I'm a half assed purist. And there really is no talking sense into us whatsoever. Would it be cool if Porsche dominated the market performance wise, in a way, hell yeah. BUT, I would rather see them dominate the track and put their racing knowledge into their cars like they used to.

When you buy something like a 996, it has what they have learned from racing all packed into the car, but not the engine, and that bothers me too. In the turbo, you get a block from a GT1 race engine, and that's awesome. If they build a hatch, no matter how fast it is, it won't have the heritage, and prestige of a proper Porsche.

The 944 had their own series racing, the 914 dominated racing circuits. They used a similar setup years ago with the 550, and packed that racing knowledge into the Boxster and the Cayman. Ect...

So for me, it's not just more cars, diminished values, it comes down to the basic principle of Porsche. And that is to build only sportscars, and put everything they learn in racing into a street car. To me, that is one hell of a way to run a company, and that's why if they slapped together a 400 HP golf, it wouldn't be special. It really would just be another average car on the road. No pedigree, no heritage. To me, a Porsche is much much more than a car.

Hey, man, I totally understand where you're coming from as a Honda nut. Not quite the same thing, as Porsche definitely has a richer, more performance oriented history, but I understand how hard it is when a company doesn't stick to it's laurels.

Imagine my shagrin when I found out Acura was replacing my beloved RSX with a 3800 pound, turbocharged, AWD SUV. I still haven't gotten over that, and I probably never will. Same thing with H brand having a Civic that weighs 2900 pounds for sale right now. Ridiculous...even though it's a great business venture. Now, they show that awful NSX replacement concept as an AWD GT car. :mad:

Anyhow, we can't change our wierd addictions in cars, and we all get very campy when a company changes it's focus. This is coming from a guy who still has a crazy and probably completely unfounded love for a 2100 pound Honda Civic built in 1991 that only had 110 horsepower. And I miss those days.

Different situations, of course, but same idea. You love what you love for what it used to stand for as soon as it changes. I can see where you'd get frustrated, and I totally understand your side of the coin.

Hmmm...It's not an awful idea, making money that is, as for brand recognition and exclusivity, sure, it'll bring down the badge a bit.

It's up in the air for me, tbh.

If it's like the Boxster, a biiig step forward in performance for power and tactile stuff, then who am I to complain?

Imagine my shagrin when I found out Acura was replacing my beloved RSX with a 3800 pound, turbocharged, AWD SUV.

Uhhh, Vtec, I don't think ANYTHING liked that that was happening. I still don't think they are serious about that. I'm waiting for an asian to pop out of a bush one day.....




.......Oh yeah, but then I expect him to say, HEY HEY, JUST KIDDING ABOUT THE RSX! Sorry, bad joke, our bad.

Uhhh, Vtec, I don't think ANYTHING liked that that was happening. I still don't think they are serious about that. I'm waiting for an asian to pop out of a bush one day.....




.......Oh yeah, but then I expect him to say, HEY HEY, JUST KIDDING ABOUT THE RSX! Sorry, bad joke, our bad.

Yeah. **** the RDX. I hate that thing.

The Cayenne is already an embarassment to the Porsche badge. Well, an embarassment if you're a Porsche purist. I dont think a hatch would really be a wise idea...

I think this was extremely well written, and makes a lot of sense to most normal people. But I'm not normal, I'm a half assed purist. And there really is no talking sense into us whatsoever. Would it be cool if Porsche dominated the market performance wise, in a way, hell yeah. BUT, I would rather see them dominate the track and put their racing knowledge into their cars like they used to.

When you buy something like a 996, it has what they have learned from racing all packed into the car, but not the engine, and that bothers me too. In the turbo, you get a block from a GT1 race engine, and that's awesome. If they build a hatch, no matter how fast it is, it won't have the heritage, and prestige of a proper Porsche.

The 944 had their own series racing, the 914 dominated racing circuits. They used a similar setup years ago with the 550, and packed that racing knowledge into the Boxster and the Cayman. Ect...

So for me, it's not just more cars, diminished values, it comes down to the basic principle of Porsche. And that is to build only sportscars, and put everything they learn in racing into a street car. To me, that is one hell of a way to run a company, and that's why if they slapped together a 400 HP golf, it wouldn't be special. It really would just be another average car on the road. No pedigree, no heritage. To me, a Porsche is much much more than a car.I do believe that I will have to agree with this... Although no matter what they do, I'm a loyal purist and will always stand behind them...

I do believe that I will have to agree with this... Although no matter what they do, I'm a loyal purist and will always stand behind them...
I know I get mad and threaten to turn to Ferrari, but I'm just lying to myself. I could never make the switch. I agree with you on that Monkey.:cool:

dont worry, porsche arent going to, theyve done some things we may think of as silly but they wont go this far, and what we have considered silly, like the cayenne, is helping keep our favorites like the 911 turbo alive, if porsche went by 911 sales alone they wouldnt be half as big as they are now.

I know I get mad and threaten to turn to Ferrari, but I'm just lying to myself. I could never make the switch. I agree with you on that Monkey.:cool:Neither could I. Porsche will always be Porsche. They had to start their racing streak somewhere... maybe they'll start one in this segment. You know what I love the most about Porsche? They can take the 911 and race it on any track in the world then the next weekend have the suspension swapped out to rally THE SAME CAR! lol...

dont worry, porsche arent going to, theyve done some things we may think of as silly but they wont go this far, and what we have considered silly, like the cayenne, is helping keep our favorites like the 911 turbo alive, if porsche went by 911 sales alone they wouldnt be half as big as they are now.They wouldn't???? They made just the 911 for how long?

If they do make this I'll have to drive it before I make a final decision but I don't think they'll badge it as a Porsche.

Well, they have made a break in the past. 1 model produced. Build for Ferry Porsche for his 75th birthday. But they are prob not gonna make the vw thingy. They have go the Panamera coming up. I'm real looking forward to that. No, I think the last thing that porsche that was sensible was the Audi RS2, well they helped develope it, and they made it, they putted it together or something.

Relax, this will never happen, and if it does ill get one cause itll probably handle like a dream.

I would love to have one, because I love hatches, but if I were an uncompromising Porsche connoisseur, I would hate the idea. I definitely agree with people when they say it would dilute the brand. Hell, I think the Cayenne did that...

On the other hand, BMW has the 1-Series and as someone mentioned, there is nobody else with a small, premium-branded, RWD offering. And I certainly think there's a market for it. Here are some spy pics of the new 335i testing at the 'ring:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3252424

I love porsches, but i don't think this is a good idea. at all. btw, im new here, as you might have noticed. wow, that sounded stupid.

YEAH WESMAN! Ya jerk, why don't you just take your noobness, and GEDDAWWWTTTT!!!!!!!! We don't need yer kind round here!

Just kidding man, don't worry about it, welcome to SCF. Don't take most people seriously here because half of them are just screwin around the other half literally have NO CLUE what the hell they are talkin about.

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They wouldn't???? They made just the 911 for how long?

If they do make this I'll have to drive it before I make a final decision but I don't think they'll badge it as a Porsche.
what i meant was that porsche werent exactly a massive company when they were only making 911s and occasionally varients of that same formula, the reason theyve got so massive and been able to buy companys like VW is because of cars like the cayenne which die hard 911 fans hate.

what i meant was that porsche werent exactly a massive company when they were only making 911s and occasionally varients of that same formula, the reason theyve got so massive and been able to buy companys like VW is because of cars like the cayenne which die hard 911 fans hate.
I believe it was the 986 and the 996 that really saved Porsche. Which in turn years down the road paid off because that's when they really started mass producing cars. That's what gave them the boost to start buying shares into VW. But that's off the topic at hand.;)

well porsche are definetly expanding, but i dont think they will go as off track as to make a hot hatch? maybe they will make on and brand it as VW?

(and straight back on to topic lol)