Ok, this post is for the Rally gamers,
Richard Burns Rally vs Colin McRae Rally 2005

In simple terms, CMR is more famous, but RBR is a lot more realistic.

CMR2005 relies on having about 20 cars in it, whereas RBR only has 8, but is the pinnacle of realistic rallying.

So in another quick resumé, Colin McRae Rally 2005 is for the masses, and Richard Burns Rally is for the hardcore rally fans that want realism. (I of course will be getting both :wink: RBR is on its way and i am pre-ordering CMR2005)

I for one Cannot call for which is best, I prefer RBR because of the realism, but I love the extra's the CMR2005 has, so either way, i'm happy :twisted:


Richard Burns Rally:
www.richardburnsrally.com

Pure authentic Rally Simulation
8 of the world's best handling officially licensed Rally Cars
36 tracks in great rally locations and real life environments
officially licensed
Rally School to become a professional
1000's of potholes, ruts and rocks
Helicopter Rescues
Real life animals and birdstrikes
Spectacular Crashes
Spectators and Marshals that really help
Dynamic Weather
Real time of day
Realistic Crash damage
Every aspect of modern rallying has been precisely modelled to allow the player to experience life as a top-class rally driver. Richard Burns Rally surpasses its rivals in every area -graphical quality, technical accuracy, car physics, gameplay and unique features. Marking a significant move forward for the rally genre, Richard Burns Rally pushes the limits of technological capability whilst revising gameplay conventions. Richard Burns Rally is a game that will both challenge and astound any fan of motorsport video games.

Stages:
Ramada Express Hotel + Casino International
Location: Nevada, United States Of America

The Arctic Lapland Rally
Location: Finland

Pirelli International Rally
Location: Gateshead, England

Subaru Rally Of Canberra
Location: Canberra, Australia

Rally Mont Blanc
Location: Morzzine, French Alps

Rally Hokkaido
Location: Hokkaido, Japan

GAME MODES:
Forest Rally School (learn rally just how Richard Burns did)
Quick Rally
Rally Season
Richard Burns Challenge Mode (compete agains Richard's real times he set in a Peugeot 206 WRC)
Hot Seat

has these cars for definate;
Peugeot 206
Mitsubishi Evo VII
Hyundai Accent
Citroen Xsara T4
Toyota Corolla
Subaru Impreza 2003
Subaru Impreza 2000 (Bonus Car)
MG ZR Super 1600 (Bonus Car)

PS2
http://www.richardburnsrally.com/screens_ps2/screen012.jpg
http://www.richardburnsrally.com/screens_ps2/screen004.jpg

X-Box
http://www.richardburnsrally.com/screens_xbox/screen011.jpg
http://www.richardburnsrally.com/screens_xbox/screen005.jpg

Colin McRae Rally 2005:
http://www.codemasters.co.uk/colinmcrae2005/

The core of the game is going to be the new multi-discipline career challenge - in which you'll start out in the lower leagues of club rallying, learn your craft in over 20 different classes of rally events including Challenges, Cups, SuperCups, Shields and Championships. With 300 stages of competition, and a huge variety of car classes including 2-Wheel Drive, super 2WD, 4-Wheel-Drive, 4WD Classics and more, it'll be the most complete rally experience ever offered.
As well as the Career challenge, you'll be able to jump staight into a 4WD championship, take on a single rally or individual stage, and then take on the world in online rallies with up to 8 players.

The all-new stages feature interactive scenery, so if you push too hard and hit a tree (or when, to be more accurate), you'll see it shudder from the impact and drop leaves from the branches. Collisions will also result in a dazed effect, where your vision will be blurred for a very short period from impact. On the subject of vision, bonnet cam is back for all those who like to gaze down on a pristine engine cover (if things are going well), or the painstakingly detailed under-bonnet engine models (if they aren't).

The acclaimed Colin McRae Rally damage engine has been updated so even light touches can scratch the paintwork - and as usual, panels and components can be deformed and removed in a realistic manner, showing the mechanical components of the car in extreme detail.

9 international locations (new German rally joins events through UK, Sweden, USA, Finland, Australia, Spain, Greece, and Japan), in Rally game mode, each with 8 stages. Large, animated spectator crowds cheer you on through the stages.

Incredible detail: An individual damage model for each car - right down to paintwork scrapes and a ‘dazed’ visual effect as you recover from a crash!


has these cars for definate;
Class: 4WD
Subaru Impreza WRX
Ford Focus Rally Car
Citroen Xsara Rally Car
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII
Peugeot 206 Rally Car
Volkswagen Golf R32
Audi A3 Quattro

Class: 2WD
MG ZR
Citroen Saxo Kit Car
Volkswagen Polo Super 1600
Toyota Celica GT-S
Ford Fiesta Rallye Concept

Class: Group B
Audi Sport Quattro S1
MG 6R4
Peugeot 205 T16 Evo2
Ford RS200

Class: RWD
Lancia Stratos
Lancia 037
Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV

Class: Super 2WD
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
Renault Sport Clio V6
Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk5

Class: 4x4 Offroad
Land Rover Freelander M-sport
Mitsubishi Shogun Montero Evolution II
Nissan Pickup- Dakar 2004

Class: Special
Volkswagen Beetle RSi
Ford Escort Mk1
MGC Sebring Special
1967 Morris Mini Cooper S

Class: Classic
Ford Escort RS Cosworth
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo
Toyota Celica GT-Four (ST185)
Subaru Impreza 22B STi

and as you can see, these X-Box screenshots do not look too great so far... (could not get PC and PS2 images yet)
http://www.codemasters.co.uk/images/microsites/cmr05/cmr2005_xbox_063.jpg
http://www.codemasters.co.uk/images/microsites/cmr05/cmr2005_xbox_011.jpg
http://www.codemasters.co.uk/images/microsites/cmr05/cmr2005_xbox_008.jpg

im quite a hardcore gamer and ive never even heard of richard burns rally...might just be me though

im quite a hardcore gamer and ive never even heard of richard burns rally...might just be me though
It came out last month, due to Burns' retirement because of a brain tumour last season its worked out well, and he hopes to return to rallying for next season, so something to keep him occupied with while he's out of action for a year :P

Even though I didn't play teh games, I'm going with Colin McRae Rally 2005

Even though I didn't play teh games, I'm going with Colin McRae Rally 2005

same here

Damn, both seem so great, I don't know which one to choose... :?

If RBR is really more realistic than CMR i'm taking RBR. I think the realism is the biggest problem of CMR. In CMR you can hit a house at 200km/h and nothing happens just putting revers getting back on track and go on. But i still haven't play the RBR so i have to test it.

Can anyone tell me if RBR is available here in the states?

I cant answer that, but it is coming on PC in October,

and I just ordered CMR2005 :D :D :D

i've played RBR but not CMR2005.
RBR is very hard to control.
Subarukid is there any chance you could lend me one for a week or something.
btw i choose RBR.

i've played RBR but not CMR2005.
RBR is very hard to control.
Subarukid is there any chance you could lend me one for a week or something.
btw i choose RBR.
CMR2005 comes out this Thursday.
And how exactly would you like me to lend you a game, when you live 250miles north of me :lol:
Once you get the hang of RBR, its not too bad, incredibly realistic damage model.

I see nothing about it on sites but does the Xbox need a mod chip for UK game? b/c i want to order RBR off ebay or Amazon but Colin McRae 05 comes out the 28th for us Xbox owners in the U.S.

Personally, I can't stand the rally games that are so hard-core that you have to be really in to it to keep yourself from playing frisbee with your new CD. I think that the wider selection of cars in CMR would keep me happy, and the graphics look pretty similar.

I played in RBR and i have to say that it's great. I had big problems with finishing a single special stage all the time i was destroying my car and i had to retire from rally. I haven't played CMR 2005 yet but i think it's going to be much more arcade game than sim (like the older CMRs). So from this two games i would definitely take the RBR.

i've played RBR but not CMR2005.
RBR is very hard to control.
Subarukid is there any chance you could lend me one for a week or something.
btw i choose RBR.
CMR2005 comes out this Thursday.
And how exactly would you like me to lend you a game, when you live 250miles north of me :lol:
Once you get the hang of RBR, its not too bad, incredibly realistic damage model.

Send it to me, then after a week I send it back.