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Saman
Jul 27, 2003, 4:59 PM
Good match up, but i think the Sweds got this one. Italy lose... for once.




My Choice: Koenigsegg

White-Night
Jul 27, 2003, 5:33 PM
mine is the Enzo ....!!

mallon
Jul 27, 2003, 5:45 PM
i dunno, probably the koenigsegg
just because its faster and a less obvious choice for a supercar.

White-Night
Jul 27, 2003, 5:48 PM
and a less obvious choice for a supercar.

LOL i liked that :lol:

jimkk29
Jul 27, 2003, 6:30 PM
Perhaps the Enzo... I don't know many things about the Koenigsegg. :?

FR500
Jul 28, 2003, 1:32 AM
Perhaps the Enzo... I don't know many things about the Koenigsegg. :?

I dont know much either, i heard it hits 10 sec in the quarter mile, nothing else but i will research

jimkk29
Jul 28, 2003, 10:45 AM
Besides, the company is unknown, so I doubt they will have decent after sales services.

FR500
Jul 30, 2003, 1:24 AM
Besides, the company is unknown, so I doubt they will have decent after sales services.

Koenig is not unknown, they made some pretty damn cool modified lambo GTR-s, they are really nice, and the car,features are:

Engine
Type: Supercharged V8
Displacement: 4700 cc
Horsepower: 655 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 553 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.2 sec
0-100 mph: 7.1 sec
Quarter Mile: est 10.0 sec @ 148 mph
Skidpad: 1.15g
Top Speed: est 240 mph

So is a pretty damn fast car

Raith83
Jul 30, 2003, 11:00 AM
Well, yes, the Enzo is cool, and it's a Ferarri. But There's definitly something other worldy about the Koenigsegg, like it's beyond all other cars. Thats just simply on aesthetics and design engineering though, the performance is still pretty killer to anything stock and non-supercar. Given the choice, I'd totally take the Koenigsegg. (or maybe both :mrgreen: )

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Jul 30, 2003, 11:31 AM
It's not gonna be a hard decision because.... It's a Ferrari <-- Italian car , agianst a swedish car...

I must say the design of that koeniggsecc isn't really bad but the Enzo is MUCH more beautiful!
Then i don't think the enzo or the koeniggsec is much faster i think the are both around the 3.3 sec. from 0-100 under EXACTLY the same conditions , like weather, tire's ect.

The Ferrari will have a real FERRARI sound coming out of their beautiful exhaust , if the Ferrari will hit the throttle the koeniggsec can go home already!

In every detail , ofcourse the FERRARI will be The NO.1 FOR EVER!
ITALIAN POWER! WILL be always stronger than swedish!

SO please order the Enzo for me :)

Greetz :"Danny!

WRX-STI
Jul 30, 2003, 2:54 PM
Koenigsegg

It's faster, and cooler looking.

White-Night
Jul 30, 2003, 4:25 PM
Koenigsegg

It's faster, and cooler looking.

who told you its faster?!

jimkk29
Jul 30, 2003, 5:57 PM
I just saw a video with the Koenigsegg... man, it's AWESOME!!! :shock: :shock:
I'm thinking about reconsidering my previously stated opinion...

Evo_power
Jul 30, 2003, 7:24 PM
I'd take the Koenigsegg, it looks better. The Enzo kinda looks like an ant-eater in my opinion. And in order to get one, you have to have like 5 or 6 Ferraris already. The car isnt THAT good. Its got too much hype to it. Of coarse its still an amazing car that will out perform over 98% of all cars in the world. I'd still go for the CC.

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Jul 30, 2003, 9:39 PM
EVo Power :

Ferrari does do for sure 1 thing VERY good!! And that is if you want to buy an Ferrari Enzo you'll need to have a couple of Ferrari's!

This is why :
- The Enzo proberly would be more exclusive!
- NOt a kid with rich parents can go to the dealer and say ,; hey mate pass me a Enzo keej? SO NON WRONG DRIVERS in the Enzo!
- ferrari try to sale to Enzo to real Ferrari enthousiasts, That Ferrari could be quite sure that they Enzo is not saled after two months! ,

Think this will absolutly help the Image of Ferrari! , They are hard to get m very expensive , and exclusive!AND beautiful!

Would you ever drive another car??
me not :)

Greetz : Danny!

WRX-STI
Jul 30, 2003, 10:31 PM
who told you its faster?!

Take a look for yourself.. .Compare these pages:

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/koenigsegg_cc.asp

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/ferrari_enzo.asp

White-Night
Jul 31, 2003, 10:04 AM
for all i remmber the enzo is 3.2 from 0-100 !@

Raith83
Jul 31, 2003, 11:56 AM
I'd take the Koenigsegg, it looks better. The Enzo kinda looks like an ant-eater in my opinion. And in order to get one, you have to have like 5 or 6 Ferraris already. The car isnt THAT good. Its got too much hype to it. Of coarse its still an amazing car that will out perform over 98% of all cars in the world. I'd still go for the CC.
It's so STUPID that you need more than money(who ever thought that could be posible) to get a Ferarri anymore. WTF?! All hail the CC :D

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Jul 31, 2003, 8:18 PM
I Agree with white- night !

Somewere i read that the Enzo indeed goed in 3.2 to tha 100 km/h!

But , if you look to normal road car tests , Every test has diffrent results so , i can understand other people think diffrent about some things!

Greetz : Danny!

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Jul 31, 2003, 8:27 PM
Riath i think that's your opinion!

But i think it's not more that logical!
Ferrari doesn't build much Enzo's IT's A SPECIAL car! So only real Ferrari enthousiast can drive the car i think it's quite logical! , Else Kids with rich parents could go the the Ferrari dealer and said , yo give me an Enzo , That's absolutly NOT good for the reputation of Ferrari!!

It's not a car to crash and stuff like that ok ?

And then tere is a second point , You maybe think: Power? :s , NUt i can tell , ya The have to drive much other fast cars , to control the Enzo completly , Ferrari know's to you cán't stay of that pedal , so , with other Ferrari's in your garden your absolutly more experienced!

Greetz : Danny!

FR500
Aug 01, 2003, 1:05 AM
for all i remmber the enzo is 3.2 from 0-100 !@

So? you must have a great sight, i cant look or feel the difference from 3.2 to 3.3 seconds, i know it's a huge achivement to go under 4 secs and furthermore to get to reduce 1/10th of second in 0-100, dont mistake my words, but if Enzo hadd heard that he would have shot himself. Why making a car that can go over 300km/h and handle like a F1 car if you only care about the first 3 seconds of the driving experience.

In that case, the best cars would be the the Lingenflter, the Boss Cobra, and the Hennessay to mention three

importistt
Aug 01, 2003, 2:52 AM
if i were to pick a car..i would go with the cc since its cheaper...they both have around the same hp and look good. i wouldnt mind driving the cc or enzo if i had the money to buy it....but since i dnot have money to buy them, i would get a 350z or hopefully the gtr.r35.

Evo_power
Aug 01, 2003, 3:39 AM
Yer never gonna get to drive the GtR35 cuz no one liked it, so Nissan isnt gonna make it, mainly cuz its a huge ugly peice of shiat, thats my opinion anyway. I think the F-50 is cooler then the Enzo anyway, and I really have no idea, but isnt the F-50 faster? anyway, the guys at Ferrari are jerkoffs anyway, about 70K of the price tag for a 360 Modena is for the little Ferrari symbol on the hood of the car. You can get the Lingenfelter Corvette, which is faster then ALL cars for under the price of the cheapest new Ferrari. And the Bugatti Veyron is cooler then all of those cars anyway.

Brain_6
Aug 01, 2003, 3:29 PM
Anyone can make a fast car like the koenigsegg cc, the enzo is not really that special- the fact that its a ferrari gives it the edge obviously but its purpose was to be the closest driving thing you could get to an f1 car and michael schumacher helped with developing the cars characteristics and said its still a long way off f1. I want to see ferrari build a car that hits 230mph + because their new cars are pretty much monotonous with around 180 or 190mphon tap, but overall the koenigsegg i feel is too similar to the mclaren f1 and what has been done is done again so enzo takes this one, (just)

White-Night
Aug 01, 2003, 4:20 PM
for all i remmber the enzo is 3.2 from 0-100 !@

So? you must have a great sight, i cant look or feel the difference from 3.2 to 3.3 seconds, i know it's a huge achivement to go under 4 secs and furthermore to get to reduce 1/10th of second in 0-100, dont mistake my words, but if Enzo hadd heard that he would have shot himself. Why making a car that can go over 300km/h and handle like a F1 car if you only care about the first 3 seconds of the driving experience.



the site said its 3.65 not 3.2 or 3.3 ....
and there is a huge diffrence between 3.65 and 3.2 ...!!!

FR500
Aug 02, 2003, 2:59 AM
for all i remmber the enzo is 3.2 from 0-100 !@

So? you must have a great sight, i cant look or feel the difference from 3.2 to 3.3 seconds, i know it's a huge achivement to go under 4 secs and furthermore to get to reduce 1/10th of second in 0-100, dont mistake my words, but if Enzo hadd heard that he would have shot himself. Why making a car that can go over 300km/h and handle like a F1 car if you only care about the first 3 seconds of the driving experience.



the site said its 3.65 not 3.2 or 3.3 ....
and there is a huge diffrence between 3.65 and 3.2 ...!!!

I know that, the CC does 3.3 not 3.65, that what i read, and even there you have a huge gap, but not for drivers, for engineers, it's a technological gap, but in driving you won't ever notice the differece, and i dont think the enzo breaks the quarter in plain 10 seconds (i could be wrong, im not really sure), the CC does, but who cars about 0-100 or quarter, they are meant for track racing, some laps at NUR with the pagani, the carrera GT the enzo the CC and the S7 would be great to see.

Also, as a question at www.fast-autos.net, they say the Mac F1 pulls only 0.86g in the skidpad, do u think that is right, i verified at supercar.net, if so, then skidpad is not that important as for handling as we have thought because the MacLaren is one of the fastest track cars ever in the world

White-Night
Aug 02, 2003, 9:29 AM
what the hell 0.86G !!!
ok never mind both are great cars....
hope somebody here will be able to buy one some day /!!!
and its all then a matter of taste ...

Saman
Aug 02, 2003, 2:08 PM
Sorry guys, but most of what you guys are saying isn't fact, just a lot of made up bs.
First off, the Koenigsegg goes 0-60 in 3.0 flat. Now you might say what i am saying is bs. Well the difference is i have evidence. If you don't believe me download this video about the car and a lot more about it.

The web page is http://www.polarisuk.com/video/auto/Koenigsegg.wmv

sTeViE26
Aug 02, 2003, 10:27 PM
If I had my choice, I'd definately take the Enzo. Maybe I'm a bit partial to Ferrari, and don't get me wrong, the CC is an amazing machine, but the Enzo is the car that appeals to me most. For one, I don't care much about the acceleration times (they can vary a lot depending on track conditions, anyways). When you have a car with 650 horsepower, it'll be plenty fast enough. Oh, and about people complaining about the top speed of some other Ferrari's in the 180-190mph range... when was the last time you drove 180mph? Ferrari could have designed a car to beat the McLaren F1 or the CC in top speed, but who really cares? I mean, there's nowhere you can use that kind of speed except a runway or a high speed test track. 220mph (approxiametely the top speed of the Enzo) is more than enough for any driver, even Michael Schumacher. Now, in getting to my point, the Enzo was built for the race track! When you have $650 000 to spend on a car, and have the prerequisite number of Ferrari's already, you must be an enthusiast, and your car is going to see a lot of track time. A CC might be able to run with an Enzo in a straight line, but on the track the Ferrari will run circles around it. I even saw a Pagani Zonda (quite a bit slower in a straight line than a CC) beat a CC by a tenth of a second (not a huge margin, but the car obviously has much better handling/braking or whatever) around a test track in a video... with the same driver, of course. Although the Enzo is more than double the price of the CC, when you have that much money, it's not really a consideration. The Ferrari is also more practical (not that it matters much, either - it won't be used as a daily driver), Road & Track praised it's highway ride quality, and you can raise that big long nose by pushing a button on the steering wheel when pulling into driveways. Also, there's the matter of the Enzo's F1-style paddle-shift sequential transmission - definately much easier (and faster) than using a big heavy clutch. Speaking of which, I heard the first CC just competed in the Gumball 3000 rally, and totaly destroyed it's clutch on the hills of San Francisco (www.fast-autos.net)! And finally, what happens to your CC when it needs to be serviced? Send it back to Sweden? At least with a Ferrari, you can take it to any major city with a Ferrari dealer and have it fixed (slowly, albeit probably much faster than when you need a part for your Koenigsegg). Anyways, I don't mean to be putting the CC down at all, it's one of my favourite cars, and I couldn't even imagine what it would be like to own... but if I'm gonna' dream, I'm gonna' dream big... and an Enzo's what I want!

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 02, 2003, 10:34 PM
If I had my choice, I'd definately take the Enzo. Maybe I'm a bit partial to Ferrari, and don't get me wrong, the CC is an amazing machine, but the Enzo is the car that appeals to me most. For one, I don't care much about the acceleration times (they can vary a lot depending on track conditions, anyways). When you have a car with 650 horsepower, it'll be plenty fast enough. Oh, and about people complaining about the top speed of some other Ferrari's in the 180-190mph range... when was the last time you drove 180mph? Ferrari could have designed a car to beat the McLaren F1 or the CC in top speed, but who really cares? I mean, there's nowhere you can use that kind of speed except a runway or a high speed test track. 220mph (approxiametely the top speed of the Enzo) is more than enough for any driver, even Michael Schumacher. Now, in getting to my point, the Enzo was built for the race track! When you have $650 000 to spend on a car, and have the prerequisite number of Ferrari's already, you must be an enthusiast, and your car is going to see a lot of track time. A CC might be able to run with an Enzo in a straight line, but on the track the Ferrari will run circles around it. I even saw a Pagani Zonda (quite a bit slower in a straight line than a CC) beat a CC by a tenth of a second (not a huge margin, but the car obviously has much better handling/braking or whatever) around a test track in a video... with the same driver, of course. Although the Enzo is more than double the price of the CC, when you have that much money, it's not really a consideration. The Ferrari is also more practical (not that it matters much, either - it won't be used as a daily driver), Road & Track praised it's highway ride quality, and you can raise that big long nose by pushing a button on the steering wheel when pulling into driveways. Also, there's the matter of the Enzo's F1-style paddle-shift sequential transmission - definately much easier (and faster) than using a big heavy clutch. Speaking of which, I heard the first CC just competed in the Gumball 3000 rally, and totaly destroyed it's clutch on the hills of San Francisco (www.fast-autos.net)! And finally, what happens to your CC when it needs to be serviced? Send it back to Sweden? At least with a Ferrari, you can take it to any major city with a Ferrari dealer and have it fixed (slowly, albeit probably much faster than when you need a part for your Koenigsegg). Anyways, I don't mean to be putting the CC down at all, it's one of my favourite cars, and I couldn't even imagine what it would be like to own... but if I'm gonna' dream, I'm gonna' dream big... and an Enzo's what I want!
same here :D

Evo_power
Aug 03, 2003, 1:36 AM
Well if yer getting into the "I have ungodly amounts of money catagory" why not just by the McLaren F1! Its a better car in every aspect. Only the way it looks(and thats a matter of opinion) could be swayed if you like the Enzo's looks(which I DONT!) So I'd say for the McLaren, ITS the closest thing to an F1 car, it says so right in the name :)

mallon
Aug 03, 2003, 7:46 AM
well not in every aspect - they McLaren has very poor handling at high speeds, unlike the Enzo/Koenigseigg.

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 03, 2003, 4:28 PM
Stevie is absolutly right!!!

Enzo is THE KING on the track!!

greetz : Danny!

White-Night
Aug 03, 2003, 7:34 PM
Enzo is my choise ...
the design i like (although most of you don't )
the power is there
the handling is supurb ..
what can i say // the car is perfect !

Ferrari360Chic
Aug 03, 2003, 7:55 PM
Iight Yall, Them Koeniseggs r UgLy ! They may have a V-8 supercharged engine, but the Enzo has a V-12 and it is NiCe ! :twisted: :)

:twisted: Tha Need 4 Speed !! :twisted:
-:*:-Tori-:*:-

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 03, 2003, 8:02 PM
well not in every aspect - they McLaren has very poor handling at high speeds, unlike the Enzo/Koenigseigg.

i agree there poor handling at high speed but do you want to thern at 160 mph :D :lol:

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 03, 2003, 8:39 PM
A reason WHY the Enzo is the aster on the track is maybe because they use alott of Formula 1 techniques in the Enzo!!

Much other manufactures like koenigggsec, don't have any Formula 1 Experience!
Ofcourse Ferrari has alot

Enzo is GREAT!! And white : I like the design to!


http://www.supercarsite.net/images/cars/ferrari/fx_03.jpg

1word BEAUTIFUL!
He almost kisses the ground :)


Greetz : Danny![/img]

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 03, 2003, 8:41 PM
huh don't work?

http://www.supercarsite.net/images/cars/ferrari/fx_03.jpg

If it not works now , i'll give up :)
So nice picture!

Greetz Danny!

wisdom
Jun 22, 2005, 8:19 PM
the koenigsegg is an incredible car it took the world record for a top speed from the Mclaren f1 so i think it is fast enough and has good enough handling to beat the enzo, but dont get me wrong i love the enzo its beautiful but it would not win against the koenigsegg

wisdom
Jun 22, 2005, 8:20 PM
now that is a sweet ride i cant wait to have one !

Tha_Ndn
Jun 22, 2005, 8:27 PM
looking at specs on some site. i would enzo

igaboj
Jun 22, 2005, 8:46 PM
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