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AtlM5
Jul 16, 2007, 12:10 PM
I just saw a video of an M6 going at least 206 MPH on a freeway. I have only gotten my E60 M5 up to 120, but that was on a two lane twisty road.

Bravodor
Jul 16, 2007, 12:18 PM
well i was in my brothers stock accord 1.8 vtec while he was driving and hit 130mph with a little more push to go which i was surprised by

The 1.8 Vtec's top speed is reported to be 127 under normal conditions.

So I doubt it had anything left, although it could reach 130 easily with a slight wind or downhill grade.

kreus
Jul 16, 2007, 12:38 PM
goin 600mph wow didnt know u could stand g forces like that o thats right no one can and people call me a liar!!!!!!!!!!!


g-force has nothing to do with speed... it's about acceleration and deceleration... :S

ŘЇĆĦ0984
Jul 16, 2007, 12:49 PM
^^^^andy green went 763.035 mph in thrust ssc and theres planes that can go way quicker than that.

monkeyfkker
Jul 16, 2007, 1:35 PM
I just saw a video of an M6 going at least 206 MPH on a freeway. I have only gotten my E60 M5 up to 120, but that was on a two lane twisty road.At least 206? lol... Did you have your radar gun pointed at him or were you doing 205 and he passed you so you figure it was 206? lol

g-force has nothing to do with speed... it's about acceleration and deceleration... :Sexactly... and turning as well...

birger
Jul 16, 2007, 1:38 PM
moneyfkkr, I think you didn't read full there

He saw a video of an M6 going 206

astonmartin138
Jul 16, 2007, 3:34 PM
I went on a helicopter light and we hit 200 mph above the London Eye...

monkeyfkker
Jul 16, 2007, 3:48 PM
moneyfkkr, I think you didn't read full there

He saw a video of an M6 going 206
Aw hell you're right! Sorry... In that case I REALLY want to know how he knows it was going that fast! Most radar guns don't read that fast so where exactly did this M6 do that?


I'm not saying they can't. I recently drove the **** out of a new M6 but still... I want to know...

Chaoz
Jul 16, 2007, 6:31 PM
I recently drove the **** out of a new M6 but still... I want to know...

Monkey did u ever get around to posting about your drive cause i just looked in the "first hand experience with m6" and u didnt post anything about how it was yet?

P.s. im not going to get a infraction for being off topic am I?

civic_VTI
Jul 16, 2007, 6:41 PM
The 1.8 Vtec's top speed is reported to be 127 under normal conditions.

So I doubt it had anything left, although it could reach 130 easily with a slight wind or downhill grade.

well forget what speeds are reported because a 1.0 nissan micra is reported to top out at 93mph but ive been in a micra at 100mph on more than one occasion and even once with 3 people in the car

Bravodor
Jul 16, 2007, 7:39 PM
well forget what speeds are reported because a 1.0 nissan micra is reported to top out at 93mph but ive been in a micra at 100mph on more than one occasion and even once with 3 people in the car


That is true, its not that accurate.


But Drag usually makes most cars putter out at 120-130.


You need fairly signifigantly more HP or better Aerodynamics to get going faster.


I very much believe it goes 130, I bet it will go 135 with a tailwind easily.

But I just doubt it had much more left, the engine might have had some left, but the aerodynamics are going to hold it back.

monkeyfkker
Jul 16, 2007, 7:46 PM
Monkey did u ever get around to posting about your drive cause i just looked in the "first hand experience with m6" and u didnt post anything about how it was yet?I ended up posting about it in the "I rode in an M6" thread that TeXas made...

http://www.sportscarforums.com/f9/i-went-ride-m6-20641.html

Leman
Jul 17, 2007, 6:06 AM
I have noticed a fairly important difference between a GPS calculated speed and an indicated speed on both Honda and VW. it can be significant. Not quite sure which is the most accurate, as the GPS systems calculations are not accurate enough to give a correct meter precision, but there again they calculate relative speed form point a to b continuously.

Anybody in the "know" about real indicated speed for different makes of cars?

Because my indicated top speed in a chipped R32 of 245 Km/H is probably closer to the GPS calculated 230KM/H. Without track telemetry, how can we be sure we are comparing apples and apples.

Furthermore, in a helicopter, again there are two speeds to consider, airspeed and ground speed.

birger
Jul 17, 2007, 6:39 AM
The speedo is manufactured in thousand and is just put in.
A manufacturer can't calibrate evry speedometer.

But manufacturers like porsche make sure their speedometers are more accurate.

Some even assure that it is accurate up onto for example 200km/h

pawan
Jul 17, 2007, 10:26 AM
this was the speedo pic maxed out the speedo reads 210 on th baleno and i claimed it to be 230 by another elantra maxing out its speedo at 225.also we were pulling away from it.
http://www.sportscarforums.com/gallery/data/500/230reei3.jpg

sohcvtec
Jul 17, 2007, 9:02 PM
i just googled boleno and it's a Suzuki (Maruti)^ I thought it was an SUV, anyways, that's pretty fast, really for an indian car that size.

*#turbinas#*
Jul 18, 2007, 9:02 AM
Hm, that's an interesting pic. Now i should trust you. At first i thought that it was impossible to do it.
I haven't been convinced with Balenos. Take a pug 106.

dodge dude93
Jul 18, 2007, 10:29 AM
Is this the right place to post this?

I went over 80 MPH Sunday night


Alright here is my story...

There are these two dumbassed redneck guys...in their old beater Dodge Dakota...we are in the 2002 Ram 1500.

These guys are driving over the line we are all like : "what the hell are they doing??!"

There is a stop light to another highway...they had FINALLY passed us...we are going about 40-45 MPH...they are slowing to a stop....light turns green my dad punches the throttle go's up to 70 in a blast we pass them....we slow down to regular speed. They race up...there is a car in our lane...we can't pass...we were HOPING that they would pass us...no they (the dakota) slow down the let US pass...we get back in our lane....they drive up...rev the engine....they wanted to race...my dad says " You wanna race? I'll give you a race..." We go we leave them in our dust...we won handily!:D They drop WAAAAY back...they were following us for a while till we got to a corner gas station we turned left...they turned into the gas station... I guess they used up their gas.:D

pawan
Jul 18, 2007, 12:11 PM
Hm, that's an interesting pic. Now i should trust you. At first i thought that it was impossible to do it.
I haven't been convinced with Balenos. Take a pug 106.
the balenos,esteems have serious potential owning to its low engine weight as well as body weight the baleno weighs only 950 kgs and the esteem 800 kgs.

Venom 1000
Jul 18, 2007, 12:57 PM
Is this the right place to post this?

I went over 80 MPH Sunday night


Alright here is my story...

There are these two dumbassed redneck guys...in their old beater Dodge Dakota...we are in the 2002 Ram 1500.

These guys are driving over the line we are all like : "what the hell are they doing??!"

There is a stop light to another highway...they had FINALLY passed us...we are going about 40-45 MPH...they are slowing to a stop....light turns green my dad punches the throttle go's up to 70 in a blast we pass them....we slow down to regular speed. They race up...there is a car in our lane...we can't pass...we were HOPING that they would pass us...no they (the dakota) slow down the let US pass...we get back in our lane....they drive up...rev the engine....they wanted to race...my dad says " You wanna race? I'll give you a race..." We go we leave them in our dust...we won handily!:D They drop WAAAAY back...they were following us for a while till we got to a corner gas station we turned left...they turned into the gas station... I guess they used up their gas.:D

Obviously a Ram is going to be faster than a Dakota. The engine is huge compared to the V6 in the Dakota. I knew who won before I was halfway through the paragraph.

*#turbinas#*
Jul 18, 2007, 1:09 PM
the balenos,esteems have serious potential owning to its low engine weight as well as body weight the baleno weighs only 950 kgs and the esteem 800 kgs.
I know that these cars are not so heavy but a pug 106 has the same weight. Almost.

pawan
Jul 18, 2007, 1:30 PM
I know that these cars are not so heavy but a pug 106 has the same weight. Almost.
google suzuki zen 700 kgs. or a maruthi 800,sipani reliant dolphin all a litttle over 500kgs

*#turbinas#*
Jul 18, 2007, 1:37 PM
google suzuki zen 700 kgs. or a maruthi 800,sipani reliant dolphin all a litttle over 500kgs
Ok ok. Just leave it and move on. I just told you an idea. It's your choice. We shouldn't go off topic.

ferrari_boy
Jul 19, 2007, 12:38 AM
210km/h in a Custom Tuned Mugen Civic, its was a blast, also went 100km/h around a tight turn, lots of fun.

SSG
Jul 19, 2007, 11:41 AM
15 mph on a Bike.... :(

*#turbinas#*
Jul 19, 2007, 11:48 AM
15 mph on a Bike.... :(
lol. In a bike i have achieved around 65km/h in a downhill. That was incredible.

SSG
Jul 19, 2007, 12:53 PM
Oh I down hill than probly 70 km. :-k

I dont keep track of how fasst Im going down a hill, bikes dont speedometers. :-k

sohcvtec
Jul 19, 2007, 4:50 PM
i rode my bike 21mph on my street even though the speed limit was 20. i know, I'm a rebel...

Venom 1000
Jul 19, 2007, 10:27 PM
Can you actually get a ticket for speeding in a bike? Just curious about that...

Ghalos
Jul 19, 2007, 11:29 PM
Can you actually get a ticket for speeding in a bike? Just curious about that...

Yes, actually, you can if you're on the road and exceeding the posted limit.

Same goes for rollerblades and skateboards.

No joke.

dodge dude93
Jul 19, 2007, 11:42 PM
Yes, actually, you can if you're on the road and exceeding the posted limit.

Same goes for rollerblades and skateboards.

No joke.
Well...that sucks crap....then I have sped multiple times in that case...lol

911_master
Jul 20, 2007, 7:51 AM
Ive gone 240km/h in A BMW M5, In the Nt before the speed limits were introduced (auzzie) but a special mention to the Mitsubishi 380, which i never thought would make 200 km/h but i did!

Venom 1000
Jul 20, 2007, 11:30 AM
Yes, actually, you can if you're on the road and exceeding the posted limit.

Same goes for rollerblades and skateboards.

No joke.
I kind of doubt that a cop would scan you with his radar gun. I mean, it would be hard to hit you with it, even if he wanted to. Though it would be something if a cop drove up to you and handed you a ticket for going too fast :p

civic_VTI
Jul 20, 2007, 12:04 PM
I kind of doubt that a cop would scan you with his radar gun. I mean, it would be hard to hit you with it, even if he wanted to. Though it would be something if a cop drove up to you and handed you a ticket for going too fast :p

that would be on the news if that happend lol

SSG
Jul 20, 2007, 1:10 PM
Yes, actually, you can if you're on the road and exceeding the posted limit.

Same goes for rollerblades and skateboards.

No joke.

Or if your not wearing a helmet at a certain speed....

Venom 1000
Jul 20, 2007, 1:47 PM
I know laws are in place to protect people... but sometimes I think we have too many laws. To the point where it becomes rediculous. You can try to make laws to protect the idiots of our society but there comes a point where you just have to stop. I mean, if an officer pulled me over on my mountain bike for going too fast, I'd laugh in his face even if I did get a fine.

Speeddemon350
Jul 20, 2007, 4:24 PM
Yes, actually, you can if you're on the road and exceeding the posted limit.

Same goes for rollerblades and skateboards.

No joke.


are you serious? that is stupid, on my longboard, i can't stop, well i can carve, but like really, cmon that takes the fun away. I flew by a cop once, i was going to fast on my board and i had to pass the dude, and the cop was sitting watching me and didn't pull me over or anything.

WillrunifChased
Jul 20, 2007, 10:55 PM
Yes, actually, you can if you're on the road and exceeding the posted limit.

Same goes for rollerblades and skateboards.

No joke.

It really is no joke, I have a friend who got pulled over one day on his bike. He was going down a long steep hill and got busted for 11 over. I thought that he was lying but he wasn't. I'd show proof but it was a few years back.

Speeddemon350
Jul 20, 2007, 11:12 PM
It really is no joke, I have a friend who got pulled over one day on his bike. He was going down a long steep hill and got busted for 11 over. I thought that he was lying but he wasn't. I'd show proof but it was a few years back.

did he fight the ticket in court? if he did, what did the judge say?

chevy2go
Jul 21, 2007, 10:11 AM
I'm sorry, is that exageration, or are you mocking me?

no exageration all truth

Venom 1000
Jul 21, 2007, 5:01 PM
did he fight the ticket in court? if he did, what did the judge say?

I wouldn't even bother with it. What are they going to do if you don't pay? Throw you in jail because you went too fast? If they did it would be pretty sad. It would reveil just how demented laws have become.

Speeddemon350
Jul 21, 2007, 11:32 PM
^^^If you don't pay they would send you a court date to fight the ticket

no exageration all truth
Oh i'm sorry, for some reason i thought 150 was mph, even though i wrote 150 km/h, lol, well i believe that

Venom 1000
Jul 21, 2007, 11:45 PM
^^^If you don't pay they would send you a court date to fight the ticket





The point I'm getting at is that such a demented law cannot be enforced. The cop would have to have no life to go through the trouble to make you pay the ticket, which is probably no more than 30 bucks. They arn't going to do anything to you for going too fast on your bike. All you have to do is show up and the judge would throw it out of court. Unless the cop paid him. And it wouldn't be worth his time unless he's exceptionally sadistic.

escapade
Jul 21, 2007, 11:46 PM
if i got a speeding ticket on my pushbike i would show everyone it... but it would also suck

Speeddemon350
Jul 21, 2007, 11:50 PM
The point I'm getting at is that such a demented law cannot be enforced. The cop would have to have no life to go through the trouble to make you pay the ticket, which is probably no more than 30 bucks. They arn't going to do anything to you for going too fast on your bike. All you have to do is show up and the judge would throw it out of court. Unless the cop paid him. And it wouldn't be worth his time unless he's exceptionally sadistic.

yea i know, im with you 100% it is rather stupid. Cops here in maryland have no life at all. My cousin seriously got pulled over by a cop with a two dougnuts in his hands for doing 7 mph over the limit, even though traffic speed is going at that rate. It is really sad

maxmc89
Jul 22, 2007, 5:15 PM
170km/h on my bike. Ive seen videos of it going at 190km/h but no way I'll do that, too unstable. Around 165km/h it started shaking sideways, really strange. I bet its aerodynamics and size aren't the best. Its a Honda 750 Africa Twin. It flies up to 160km/h but from then onwards it accelerates really slowly.

frewin1987
Jul 22, 2007, 8:58 PM
I can remember getting up to 33mph maximum on this hill just down the road from my house, I couldn't get any faster. And damn were my brake discs hot after I stopped lol!

Manuel
Jul 26, 2007, 2:50 PM
No engine mods, only a super chip!

slezak12
Jul 26, 2007, 3:14 PM
105 mph in my moms Volkswagen Jetta.

Bravodor
Jul 26, 2007, 3:24 PM
No engine mods, only a super chip!

Itll do 175 easy with intake exhaust and a chip, assuming you remove the limiter

MADRod
Jul 26, 2007, 5:38 PM
My car is capable of over 210mph in 1.5miles, personally ive done a Datron 201.3mph on a runway. On the road a stack recorded 193mph & thats 2mph slow so 195mph I guess.

civic_VTI
Jul 26, 2007, 5:43 PM
My car is capable of over 210mph in 1.5miles, personally ive done a Datron 201.3mph on a runway. On the road a stack recorded 193mph & thats 2mph slow so 195mph I guess.

what car do you drive and hav u got any vid clips

bossesjoe
Jul 26, 2007, 7:37 PM
Just so some people know, this (http://www.break.com/index/rx7.html) is what 210 miles per hour can look like.

skyline_luva19
Jul 26, 2007, 8:46 PM
what car do you drive and hav u got any vid clips

he drives the 200mph sierra cosworth featured on 5th gear and fast ford mag

civic_VTI
Jul 26, 2007, 9:29 PM
he drives the 200mph sierra cosworth featured on 5th gear and fast ford mag

thats cool ive just found it on youtube lol

Helter Skelter
Jul 27, 2007, 3:20 AM
very good topic that NEW people havent covered yet, i'm also an underage and havent even decided to even touch or sit in the driver's seat after that incident....
anyways that none of your concerns lets get back to the topic
the top speed i've ever been at was
1. a passeneger on a plane while the plane was taking off - 200km/h?
2. A speed boat cruise in Sydney Harbour during Australia day - 150 km/h?
3. When my dad was on the M5 to sydney airport to pick up my cousins from america - 105 km/h?

i'm not sure off the speed so all of these are just estimations

Ravenous
Jul 27, 2007, 5:03 AM
Just so some people know, this (http://www.break.com/index/rx7.html) is what 210 miles per hour can look like.

If someone had told me that was a stunt, I would have laughed. It's mind boggling how much lift a car can generate.

Chaoz
Jul 29, 2007, 12:10 AM
ya that video was amazing the call just flew away. You would think with all the prep that went into this run that the engineers would have considered this and put a aero kit or a wing on the car. This didnt look like a bunch of back yard mechnics this attemped looked to have been made by professionails

pawan
Jul 29, 2007, 2:00 AM
hit a 120 km in a 2 stroke 100cc 12 bhp bike was fun as well as scary.

skyline_luva19
Jul 29, 2007, 5:12 AM
ya that video was amazing the call just flew away. You would think with all the prep that went into this run that the engineers would have considered this and put a aero kit or a wing on the car. This didnt look like a bunch of back yard mechnics this attemped looked to have been made by professionails

they did, but when 200mph may create 50lb of downforce what do you think happens to it when the car is going backwards?

birger
Jul 29, 2007, 8:08 AM
respect to aerodynamics experts

Ravenous
Jul 29, 2007, 9:36 AM
I did 288 kph in my supra yo it was sik

bossesjoe
Jul 29, 2007, 1:40 PM
I did 288 kph in my supra yo it was sikYes, but, does it have naws?

Venom 1000
Jul 29, 2007, 8:45 PM
My car could beat that. I installed connecting rods and a carbon fiber drive shaft that lets me rev up to 11,000rpm. I also removed the piston rings to reduce friction and lowered the compression ratio from 9:1 to 6:1 to make it easier for the piston to come up. So fast....

civic_VTI
Jul 29, 2007, 9:28 PM
My car could beat that. I installed connecting rods and a carbon fiber drive shaft that lets me rev up to 11,000rpm. I also removed the piston rings to reduce friction and lowered the compression ratio from 9:1 to 6:1 to make it easier for the piston to come up. So fast....

what car do you drive?

Speeddemon350
Jul 29, 2007, 9:48 PM
My car could beat that. I installed connecting rods and a carbon fiber drive shaft that lets me rev up to 11,000rpm. I also removed the piston rings to reduce friction and lowered the compression ratio from 9:1 to 6:1 to make it easier for the piston to come up. So fast....

.....okay i can't tell if your trying to bs or not, lol........did u seriously remove the piston rings

Venom 1000
Jul 29, 2007, 10:17 PM
Of course I did. Why not? The engine runs much smoother now.

Speeddemon350
Jul 30, 2007, 12:07 AM
but if you remove the piston rings, how would you get any compression on the firing stroke if you removed them. wouldn't the pressure just leek? cause you do need pressure so the fuel that is injected can stay in the cylinder and so the pressure can, pre- heat it....

Diesel349
Jul 30, 2007, 12:09 AM
I think he was only joking...both times...

Ravenous
Jul 30, 2007, 12:17 AM
Yes, but, does it have naws?

Not yet. I'm getting 400rwhp with nothing but a bigger turbo, intercooler, quick shift kit and a sik zorst system. My blow off valve alone makes for 30hp. If I get spray, the car will explode. I need titanium cylinder walls first.

Speeddemon350
Jul 30, 2007, 12:34 AM
Not yet. I'm getting 400rwhp with nothing but a bigger turbo, intercooler, quick shift kit and a sik zorst system. My blow off valve alone makes for 30hp. If I get spray, the car will explode. I need titanium cylinder walls first.

wow, i can't believe a blow off valve makes 30hp, lol. That is pretty damn good.....freakin supras.....i want one now

The Diabetic
Jul 30, 2007, 12:44 AM
Not yet. I'm getting 400rwhp with nothing but a bigger turbo, intercooler, quick shift kit and a sik zorst system. My blow off valve alone makes for 30hp. If I get spray, the car will explode. I need titanium cylinder walls first.

Dude, slap on a bunch of tire, exhaust, and nopi stickers. Just one by itself adds 10 hp, imagine having hundreds of them plastered all over your car.

Speeddemon350
Jul 30, 2007, 1:10 AM
dude, i cannot tell sarcasm. i am very guallible. enough with the bs talk....ppplleeeeaaassseeee

azimuth361
Jul 30, 2007, 6:07 AM
158 on the Nordshliefe of the Nurburgring in my 04 NSX-R. I'd have gone faster, but the tach needle was buried in the red and the RPM limiter kicked in.

skyline_luva19
Jul 30, 2007, 7:44 AM
sweet, any pics of the nsx? any mods?

Chookes
Jul 30, 2007, 8:03 AM
Not yet. I'm getting 400rwhp with nothing but a bigger turbo, intercooler, quick shift kit and a sik zorst system. My blow off valve alone makes for 30hp. If I get spray, the car will explode. I need titanium cylinder walls first.

I lost a little respect for the Supra yesterday when I was stuck behind one that had its reverse light stuck on. It was like someone pointing a torch in my eye.

I got overtaken yesterday by a Lotus Carlton (a cousin of mine who doesn't know me very well) and then I had a race with a Renault 5 Turbo after it pulled out on me.

Venom 1000
Jul 30, 2007, 2:53 PM
but if you remove the piston rings, how would you get any compression on the firing stroke if you removed them. wouldn't the pressure just leek? cause you do need pressure so the fuel that is injected can stay in the cylinder and so the pressure can, pre- heat it....
Lower compression is obviously better. The piston can move up in the cylinder easier. In fact the best design would be to have a hole right in the middle of the piston to decrease wind resistance.

Speeddemon350
Jul 30, 2007, 3:18 PM
Lower compression is obviously better. The piston can move up in the cylinder easier. In fact the best design would be to have a hole right in the middle of the piston to decrease wind resistance.

but you cannot remove the piston ring. if you do there would barry be a spark. and how is low compression "obviously" better, what if i want to turbo my car? then whats the whole point of it if there is not pressure to seal the fuel in the cylinder. A piston ring is required in an engine. Thats like trying to run an engine with barely a cylinder. you find me a pic that has an engine with a "hole" in the cylinder and no piston ring. I'd jus die to see it. just stop now, cmon i know u better, i know you know you that doin that would just end up frying the engine

birger
Jul 30, 2007, 3:56 PM
Lower compression is obviously worse. What do you think a turbo does?Put more compression into the cylinder.

monkeyfkker
Jul 30, 2007, 6:18 PM
Speeddemon... QUIT BEING SO GULLIBLE! lol

My car is capable of over 210mph in 1.5miles, personally ive done a Datron 201.3mph on a runway. On the road a stack recorded 193mph & thats 2mph slow so 195mph I guess.Fun isn't it? I've got a car capable of 200 in a quarter mile. Does that count? lol. Where are you from bro?

Just so some people know, this (http://www.break.com/index/rx7.html) is what 210 miles per hour can look like.The Flats can kill bro. I've had some fun experiences there... and some that should've scared me away.

If someone had told me that was a stunt, I would have laughed. It's mind boggling how much lift a car can generate.Yes it is. Back when I was a kid my dad was building top ends for Raymond Beadle (funny car driver). This was in the end of the 70's/early 80's when aerodynamics was just becoming a big part of funny cars. Anyway, Raymond launched his car (a Mustang II) and got about half track when he blew a tire. The car went completely sideways and the air caught the underside of the car. It flipped upside down in the air and landed on it's roof... at about 170.

Air is a strange and unpredictable thing... lol

ya that video was amazing the call just flew away. You would think with all the prep that went into this run that the engineers would have considered this and put a aero kit or a wing on the car. This didnt look like a bunch of back yard mechnics this attemped looked to have been made by professionailsThey did... read above about how air can catch you off guard.

158 on the Nordshliefe of the Nurburgring in my 04 NSX-R. I'd have gone faster, but the tach needle was buried in the red and the RPM limiter kicked in.Wow... you mean the rev limiter allows the engine to spin up into the red? Hmmm... I've always believed that a rev limiter was designed to keep the engine from doing that. Strange...

I lost a little respect for the Supra yesterday when I was stuck behind one that had its reverse light stuck on. It was like someone pointing a torch in my eye.
Don't blame the car... blame the owner who doesn't take car of his car.

Venom 1000
Jul 30, 2007, 11:23 PM
Lower compression is obviously worse. What do you think a turbo does?Put more compression into the cylinder.
Uh, no. Turbochargers blow cool air into the cylinders to help cool things off and make the engine run more comfortably and it makes your air conditioning better. Why do you think alot of Le Mans racers are turbocharged? It gets hot after long hours on full throttle.




you find me a pic that has an engine with a "hole" in the cylinder and no piston ring. I'd jus die to see it.

Proof: http://www.elsberg-tuning.dk/images/holed%20piston.jpg

Although he did not take the piston rings out.

Speeddemon350
Jul 30, 2007, 11:58 PM
Uh, no. Turbochargers blow cool air into the cylinders to help cool things off and make the engine run more comfortably and it makes your air conditioning better. Why do you think alot of Le Mans racers are turbocharged? It gets hot after long hours on full throttle.






Proof: http://www.elsberg-tuning.dk/images/holed%20piston.jpg

Although he did not take the piston rings out.

yes but the piston rings arn't removed. you really dont get it.... if you remove the piston rings in a car, you will fry your engine. There is no point in arguing that. an the whole turbo thing, turbos run on high compression, it compresses the engine. Look it up on howstuff works. Turbochargers are a type of forced induction system. They compress the air flowing into the engine (see How Car Engines Work (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm) for a description of airflow in a normal engine). The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine squeeze more air into a cylinder, and more air means that more fuel can be added. Therefore, you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. A turbocharged engine produces more power overall than the same engine without the charging. This can significantly improve the power-to-weight ratio for the engine As you can see in this article, turbos are hooked up to the engine, not the a/c. Freeyon(sp?) helps make the air colder. The hole thing, i thought u meant as in a hole all the way through the cylinder, not just a divit.

EDIT: 444 post! ;p

Ravenous
Jul 31, 2007, 12:42 AM
Lower compression is obviously worse. What do you think a turbo does?Put more compression into the cylinder.

Technically, no it doesn't. Compression refers to how much the piston compresses what is in the cylinder. Forced induction does not affect compression, it just crams more air in.

You'll find that turbo'd and supercharged motors have generally a lower compression than naturally aspirated variants. For example, imagine a 3L straight six. The NA version has a 10:1 compression ratio. The turbo version would have about 8:1. If you push air into the cylinder at atmospheric density, 10:1 is easy to achieve with modern technology and fuel. If you push air in through a turbo, at say, 7 psi, compressing that extra air/fuel at 10:1 would cause extra stress on the motor, so for reliability's sake, the compression is reduced.

yes but the piston rings arn't removed. you really dont get it.... if you remove the piston rings in a car, you will fry your engine. There is no point in arguing that. an the whole turbo thing, turbos run on high compression, it compresses the engine. Look it up on howstuff works. As you can see in this article, turbos are hooked up to the engine, not the a/c. Freeyon(sp?) helps make the air colder. The hole thing, i thought u meant as in a hole all the way through the cylinder, not just a divit.

EDIT: 444 post! ;p

No, you don't get it. They're joking. We've all been joking, it's all been one running gag since I mentioned my Supra. Don't be so gullible.

Also, read the bit I did above about turbos. Turbos only compress the air going into the cylinder, they have nothing to do with what happens to the air once it's inside, therefore nothing to do with the compression ratio. And it's spelt Freon.

Speeddemon350
Jul 31, 2007, 1:40 AM
Technically, no it doesn't. Compression refers to how much the piston compresses what is in the cylinder. Forced induction does not affect compression, it just crams more air in.

You'll find that turbo'd and supercharged motors have generally a lower compression than naturally aspirated variants. For example, imagine a 3L straight six. The NA version has a 10:1 compression ratio. The turbo version would have about 8:1. If you push air into the cylinder at atmospheric density, 10:1 is easy to achieve with modern technology and fuel. If you push air in through a turbo, at say, 7 psi, compressing that extra air/fuel at 10:1 would cause extra stress on the motor, so for reliability's sake, the compression is reduced.



No, you don't get it. They're joking. We've all been joking, it's all been one running gag since I mentioned my Supra. Don't be so gullible.

Also, read the bit I did above about turbos. Turbos only compress the air going into the cylinder, they have nothing to do with what happens to the air once it's inside, therefore nothing to do with the compression ratio. And it's spelt Freon.


OOOOOOOOOO ahahahah woops my bad, sry venom, and whoever i might have insulted, if i did. i am a very gullible person, and i can't see expressions when using words here, so im more gullible here, lol. i never doughted that turbos compress air. I do agree with everything you said, lol.

Venom 1000
Jul 31, 2007, 9:34 PM
I was laughing all throughout this conversation. I thought that surely once I started talking about holes in the piston you'd catch on. Fun while it lasted, lol....;)

Speeddemon350
Aug 01, 2007, 12:57 AM
^^.....you suck. lol. some cylinder heads do have indentation marks in them though, divets rather.

*#turbinas#*
Aug 01, 2007, 1:08 PM
I saw the joke and it was good. They got you Speeddemon. :D
The best was when Ravenous said that a blow off valve gives in his supra +30hp. I'm still laughing.

monkeyfkker
Aug 01, 2007, 1:13 PM
Also, read the bit I did above about turbos. Turbos only compress the air going into the cylinderEveryone thinks that but it's not ALWAYS true. What about the set-ups that force the entire air/fuel mixture into the engine, not just the air?


The best was when Ravenous said that a blow off valve gives in his supra +30hp. I'm still laughing.Um Turbinas? That part wasn't part of the joke...

*#turbinas#*
Aug 01, 2007, 2:12 PM
Um Turbinas? That part wasn't part of the joke...
??What??
Can a blow off valve give you +30hp in a supra. No way. :|

bossman518
Aug 01, 2007, 3:32 PM
i hit 140 MPH in VW GTi 1.8T, its supposedly governed at 130 but somehow i got it to 140. the next step is to mod my engine and hit 170.
that will be a rush of a life time.

Venom 1000
Aug 01, 2007, 4:16 PM
How much power does it have stock ? ^^^

civic_VTI
Aug 01, 2007, 4:18 PM
How much power does it have stock ? ^^^

180bhp stock

Venom 1000
Aug 01, 2007, 4:21 PM
225km/h is pretty good for only 180bhp :-k

civic_VTI
Aug 01, 2007, 4:28 PM
225km/h is pretty good for only 180bhp :-k

well 138mph is recorded top speed but i dont know how much that is in km/h

Venom 1000
Aug 01, 2007, 5:06 PM
Like... 220km/h? To get km/h from mph just multiply by 1.6.

EriK23z
Aug 02, 2007, 12:05 AM
Crusing in I-94. I took the picture while going slow during traffic.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/EriK6/Murano/HPIM0814.jpg

silvermaster92
Aug 02, 2007, 12:08 AM
Crusing in I-94. I took the picture while going slow during traffic.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/EriK6/Murano/HPIM0814.jpg

holy.....you own a lambo?

Ravenous
Aug 02, 2007, 11:36 AM
Everyone thinks that but it's not ALWAYS true. What about the set-ups that force the entire air/fuel mixture into the engine, not just the air?


Well I've never heard of that before. It's googletime.

Crusing in I-94. I took the picture while going slow during traffic.


Since when was 80mph slow? Naughty boy. :cool:

If I did that kind of speed in my Supra something would probably fall off. Or maybe the boot would implode. Or would the coolant explode? Oh the suspense!

monkeyfkker
Aug 02, 2007, 11:50 AM
??What??
Can a blow off valve give you +30hp in a supra. No way. :|Damn bro... lol... I was kidding.

Crusing in I-94. I took the picture while going slow during traffic.

80 during slow traffic huh? lol

Well I've never heard of that before. It's googletime.
How do you think a carburated supercharger system works? The air and fuel are mixed in the carbs and they sit on top of the blower. Figure it out from there...

EriK23z
Aug 02, 2007, 12:25 PM
Seriously, if you're in an Interstate Highway or Freeway.. whichever you want to call it, 80 mph feels like 60.

The Murano is really stable even when you reach high speeds.

The only scary thing is when you're in the middle of 2 huge trucks. Most of them have like 34 wheels.