got about 110 mph out of my Ford Fiesta XR2i

130mph on 3rd grear with 93 3000gt vr4.

107mph in a 2003 530i sport

haha i went like 120 in my friend 1990 2.3 mustang..yeah kind of a gay car to go fast in

155 mp/h in a 1998 Pontiac Firebird....may it R.I.P

yea dude...that truck has a 116MPH governed top speed...

I agree it os governed at 116....but i just cant remember if it was drag limited...electronically limited or Government limiting....:-k

He says the car is stock so no limiter was taken out...

yeah...right...and stock Honda Civics run 7 sec. 1/4 miles...HAHA!!!!

130mph on 3rd grear with 93 3000gt vr4.

Bullshit. That would mean third gear is worth about 50 mph. I tell you what, if you can post the ratios on all of the gears that says you pulled 130 mph in THIRD GEAR, I'll believe you.


Today when I was merging from the interstate to the local highway a black S2k with black wheels and HKS pipes (how did I know? sticker) pulls in front of me. I thought, wow, that's a damn nice car. I bet it would own me too.

Right when we merge onto the highway he pulls slowly around the corner and (from what it seemed) punches it. I can tell because of the exhaust note and smoke at shifts. I gun it too just to see what I could do. Turns out I keep the exact same gap (about 20 ft) from when we pulled onto the road. We both shut down at about 60 - 65 (speed limit) and I was plesently suprised at how well I did. I thought, well maybe he wasn't gunning it? I know his car was faster. Well, sure enough he has about the exact same torque that I do, so it is entirely possible he went WOT.

..So I tied an S2k. Cool.

130mph on 3rd grear with 93 3000gt vr4.You smoke crack right??? LOL... The only way that would be in a car with a 4 speed transmission with a 1:1 3rd gear ratio. Interesting since the 1993 VR4 was only available with a 5 speed manual...

Bullshit. That would mean third gear is worth about 50 mph. I tell you what, if you can post the ratios on all of the gears that says you pulled 130 mph in THIRD GEAR, I'll believe you.


Today when I was merging from the interstate to the local highway a black S2k with black wheels and HKS pipes (how did I know? sticker) pulls in front of me. I thought, wow, that's a damn nice car. I bet it would own me too.

Right when we merge onto the highway he pulls slowly around the corner and (from what it seemed) punches it. I can tell because of the exhaust note and smoke at shifts. I gun it too just to see what I could do. Turns out I keep the exact same gap (about 20 ft) from when we pulled onto the road. We both shut down at about 60 - 65 (speed limit) and I was plesently suprised at how well I did. I thought, well maybe he wasn't gunning it? I know his car was faster. Well, sure enough he has about the exact same torque that I do, so it is entirely possible he went WOT.

..So I tied an S2k. Cool.

ok here is the gear ratio speed. it gose close to 125 mph,but my car rev a little higher and the speedo metter is not exact. it will change if you have bigger tires too.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/mehrshad/gearspeed6.gif

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/mehrshad/gearspeed5.gif

Wow, I was right. It is worth about 50 mph.

However, 5th gear tops out at 205...? Is this for a 3kGT? That thing would never touch 200.

It'll never touch that, but that's just the gearing. A Viper SRT-10's 6th gear goes to 270mph, but it'll never hit that.

And I vaguely remember proving, mathematically that a 3000GT/ Stealth won't do more than 160 or so.

Wow, I was right. It is worth about 50 mph.

However, 5th gear tops out at 205...? Is this for a 3kGT? That thing would never touch 200.
that' for vr4.a big turbo vr4 with 600 to 700 awhp or less will clear 200mph in about 1.5 to 2 miles.i have a video one 3000gt pass 210mph on 6th gear,but it's on the dyno.:D
here is the video http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=3D774C8C-997B-4C6C-827B-669C733A2BC5

Can I just say that this thread has lasted over two years, and has only 88 pages.

well, its not the fastest speed we have driven at.. but we were on a highway... and it was a single lane.. 1 truck infront of us and another 4-5 cars infront of it.. and traffic like crazy...back to back cars.. so finally the road opens up onto 2 lanes... we had the cars nudged into sport(pushed it to the left) my dad nailed it... and we hit about 170 km/h.. then cooled down.. we took all the cars infront of us.. but the highway we were on always has cops.. so u cant really keep ur foot down...

around 63 kmh, in a BAJAJ
and doh, that is all it has...
n it shakes harder than honda jazz on 200kmh...
n my ass is hurt...

Can I just say that this thread has lasted over two years, and has only 88 pages.

Can I just say that nobody cares.

Can I just say that nobody cares.


I'll say that too

260km/h in a Dodge SRT-4 with minor mods (21Psi with stock turbo) was the night on the highway no traffic at all , was racing an other srt-4 and a modded Acura RSX Type S (the RSX was out at 180-200)

My license is suspended for a year cause of this.. but 156 in a passat lol

I believe that...

yea...thats worth believing...and sure that was not the autobahn lol XD

155 in the autobahn....audi a4 turboed wagon

135 in New York....05 Blue STi

fastest 0-60....3.5-4 seconds......Mitsubishi Evolution 9

My license is suspended for a year cause of this.. but 156 in a passat lol

miles or kph?
residential area?

I have these days where I feel very lucky. Most of those start out with driving faster then would be responsible closely followed by someone informing me that there was a speed check on that road which is then not followed by getting a speeding ticket.

Don't try this at home though, most people do get speeding tickets.
I get 6 on average every single year.

All right, so I now have an official 'highest speed I've been'.

55kmph on a narrow gravel road.

The second worst thing to happen happened on this road, not #1 - a hoon fanging around a blind corner, but just one big motherf*cking truck on a gravel road the width of a Pagani. Then a new Range Rover, but it wasn't s bad. Might take that same road again in the Landcruiser Prado.


At least I can proudly say the first car I drove was 346 Chev/LS1 powered. Damn autos are a breeze.

Next will probably be an FD when I'm on my L's.

55 kph can be fast enough...
especially on narrow gravel roads.

I know of some spectacular stories involving narrow gravel roads and cars

New top speed in the SS: 180kph coming home tonight. On the freeway.

Only because the cops are on strike :p

Must be fuggin' heaven for speeding over there in 'No where', Rav.

So much bloody space.

New top speed in the SS: 180kph coming home tonight. On the freeway.

Only because the cops are on strike :p

112.5mph, correct?

112.5mph, correct?

No idea. Sounds about right, I'll take your word for it.

Not much when you put it into perspective, is it?

240 km/h in a BMW M3.

175+mph... :D
few years back when I had 97 Supra...

From Orange County to Las Vegas... I made it in 2 hours and 7 mins!!

Does any one know what the fastest car in GT4 is?

I revved the Suburban up to like 4,500 RPM yesterday when merging onto the freeway. I let off the gas because I wasn't sure whether it was going to shift before getting to 6,000 RPM (which is the max RPM). But that engine sounded really good even without any exhaust upgrades.

Today when me and my friends were going to lunch from school my friend got up to 95mph in his Honda Accord coupe, it's a '00 I think. Then on the way back he got up to 110, it was ****ing awesome lol. He could have gone faster but we ran out of room. Only mod he has is a AEM cold air intake and as much as I hate 4 cylinders it sounds REALLY nice, that thing screams when he floors it.

On the route I take to school there is this about mile long straight and not many cars go through there in the morning and there has never been a cop there, there's not anywhere for them to wait anyway so when I get my license I'm planning on testing my cars top speed hehe.

I revved the Suburban up to like 4,500 RPM yesterday when merging onto the freeway. I let off the gas because I wasn't sure whether it was going to shift before getting to 6,000 RPM (which is the max RPM). But that engine sounded really good even without any exhaust upgrades.

Some cars really surprise me when it comes to exhust notes. Like I got to rev my dads last gen A6 in our garage and it sounded great.

my dad's 2000 Dodge Dakota sounds really nice between 2,200-5,500RPM. i think it has some kind of sport muffler on it.

Me and my dad played around in the LS last night. Here's the results:


70 in a 45

60 in a 25

so dangerous....and yet so funhttp://www.smileytown.com/application/content/hapy0007.gif

That does sound fun...

But it's 110 in a 30 when fun turns to "Hooooollllllyyy, sheeeeeeeeeet!"

150 in a 50 (deawoo matiz suicide edition) with a hypervetilating girlfriend in the driverseat who had (as usual) refused to bring the medicine for her asthma thingy. She was so iresponsible and kept getting me in trouble with that.

3 cylinders and 800cc of raw fury baby...

My dad's partner drives one, great fuel economy, actually pretty nifty if you give it a bootfull but I can't imagine one at 150kmph.

How long did it take to reach that speed anyway? Like 30-35 seconds?

since I was dodging cars it took me a full minute and lasted little under 5 minutes (heerlen city centre can be hell at times) to reach the night emergency drug store.

Driving at 150 kph isn't a problem, trying to corner at over 100 kph is though.

damn! that was a medical emergency. at least, if I'd lost my licence that day I would have still had a pretty good feeling about it because I tried to save someones life (and she looked good enoughto make it worthwhile)

that' for vr4.a big turbo vr4 with 600 to 700 awhp or less will clear 200mph in about 1.5 to 2 miles.i have a video one 3000gt pass 210mph on 6th gear,but it's on the dyno.:D
here is the video http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=3D774C8C-997B-4C6C-827B-669C733A2BC5 A Yugo will top 150 on a dyno. There's no resistance. That VR4 won't come near 200 on the street. Especially in 6th gear.

ok here is the gear ratio speed. it gose close to 125 mph,but my car rev a little higher and the speedo metter is not exact. it will change if you have bigger tires too.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/mehrshad/gearspeed6.gif

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/mehrshad/gearspeed5.gifYou can't go by these for the top speed in each gear. The car doesn't have enough torque to go that fast in each gear.

That VR4 won't come near 200 on the street. Especially in 6th gear.

When I get a VR-4 I'll show you that it can be done! That's what Dynamic Racing's Parts are for!

I just did 93 MPH on the freeway today. Unfortunately, I really wanted to try to get it past 95 MPH but there wasn't enough room in front of me to pull it off.

When I get a VR-4 I'll show you that it can be done! That's what Dynamic Racing's Parts are for!

A stock one won't do above 163mph or so.

I proved it on like page 30 or so of this very thread.

That does sound fun...

But it's 110 in a 30 when fun turns to "Hooooollllllyyy, sheeeeeeeeeet!"

When you think about it its downright stupid. We were in a schoolzone. At night though

By the way, I converted that into mph jsut so you know. I probably should've stated that as I usually just write it in kmph.

:D :D :D :)

LS + gas + brake + 20 seconds= FUN:) :D :D :D

90mph in a 1998 saab 9-3 hatchback

um bout 60 in a mini cooper lol

A Yugo will top 150 on a dyno. There's no resistance. That VR4 won't come near 200 on the street. Especially in 6th gear.

You can't go by these for the top speed in each gear. The car doesn't have enough torque to go that fast in each gear.

if you mean stock vr4 yes it should max out about 165 to 170 but with mods you will.i have a 15gs vr4 with 352 awhp on 13psi. i will boost to 18psi soon or later and then i should pass 400 awhp. don't you think 400whp is good enough for 200mph? it should take me about 3 to 4 miles to 200 from 0 mph. i don't have high quality tires and balls to max out my car any way.if i could find a straight line like air port i would do it, but on highway no way.here is plenty of police looking for people like me.LOL
edit : when i ran 130mph i was bpu on stock turbos 14 psi untuned.
there was a guy with moded vr4 racing a busa ,and the busa driver said the speedometer was on 190+ mph when he looked at the speedometer.but well you don't see those kind of videos like supras, becouse most 3000gt owners don't care about it.that's why people don't know much about 3000gts

Density of air: .00238...
202(mph)divided by 161(mph)=1.25
(Geometric increase in power remember??)Cube 1.25 you get: 1.5625
1.5625 multiplied by 320bhp(your car's power to hit 161) and you get:500


500 HORSEPOWER, that's how much you'd need to hit 202mph.

I posted this on like, page 20 of this thread. Some noob, utter and complete noob came on here saying his bone stock VR4 would do 202mph. As a matter o' fact, if you click that triangle in the quote box, it'll take you to the original, unedited post. =P

That's the math.

So, there's your answer. :)

Factor in tyres, gear ratios and wind resisatnce as well and you may well need more than 500hp.

Nah, the air resistance part is taken care of. That's why you cube the power figure, as it's a geometric increase of power/ speed.

The rolling resistance might make a sliiight difference.

In the full version I said "Don't get me started on the aerodynamic stability"...Suffice to say, if you made it more stable, it'd need probably mean wings and ground effects, which means more power.

A good figure would be 550bhp for stability and power.

if you mean stock vr4 yes it should max out about 165 to 170 but with mods you will.i have a 15gs vr4 with 352 awhp on 13psi. i will boost to 18psi soon or later and then i should pass 400 awhp. don't you think 400whp is good enough for 200mph? it should take me about 3 to 4 miles to 200 from 0 mph. i don't have high quality tires and balls to max out my car any way.if i could find a straight line like air port i would do it, but on highway no way.here is plenty of police looking for people like me.LOL
edit : when i ran 130mph i was bpu on stock turbos 14 psi untuned.
there was a guy with moded vr4 racing a busa ,and the busa driver said the speedometer was on 190+ mph when he looked at the speedometer.but well you don't see those kind of videos like supras, becouse most 3000gt owners don't care about it.that's why people don't know much about 3000gts
You're telling me that your car can do 200? I've got the balls to do it and I'll pay for the tires. If it won't I get to keep the car though. How confident are you that it'll do it??

You're telling me that your car can do 200? I've got the balls to do it and I'll pay for the tires. If it won't I get to keep the car though. How confident are you that it'll do it??

keep your money.there is someone already has done 200mph with same setup as min:p .

we have scientifically proven your car cant go 200...

show us a video and we'll shut up, mehrshadvr4. Otherwise you can keep on dreaming ;)

not the fastest iv ever gone but i was in a friends bentley continental flying spur and we did about 60? but not my fastest.

Originally Posted by Ghalos
Density of air: .00238...
202(mph)divided by 161(mph)=1.25
(Geometric increase in power remember??)Cube 1.25 you get: 1.5625
1.5625 multiplied by 320bhp(your car's power to hit 161) and you get:500
500 HORSEPOWER, that's how much you'd need to hit 202mph.
________________________________________ ____________
I posted this on like, page 20 of this thread. Some noob, utter and complete noob came on here saying his bone stock VR4 would do 202mph. As a matter o' fact, if you click that triangle in the quote box, it'll take you to the original, unedited post. =P

That's the math.

So, there's your answer. :)

keep your money.there is someone already has done 200mph with same setup as min:p .


If you made it more stable, (which you *would*) it'd probably mean adding wings and ground effect kits, which means you'll need even more power.

A good figure then, I'd say, would be 550bhp for stability and power.

Dude, you didn't read what I wrote the first time, so I'm quoting myself.

Read it.

202mph stealth ~ 3.ltr twin turbo intercooled DSM power plant - awd aws 5spd gear box - i hit the limit - didnt take more than a mile to max her out.


3000gt/ stealth are not DSM.....[-X

3000gt/ stealth are not DSM.....[-X

I'm not entirely sure what you meant by that, whether or not you're waving your finger at that guy, who's not been around for months. Or the fact that your idea just got tossed out the window.

Dude, aerodynamics are aerodynamics, and power is power. It's that simple.

the vr4s have active spoiler on the front and on the rear.the front one will come down about 100 mm and the rear spoiler get to 45° angle after 50mph.any way .if i want to pass 200 mph i will lower my car.;)

[-X dose it mean no??????

Umm...That rear spoiler's gonna add drag at the back.

A good figure would be 550bhp for stability and power.

i will make 550 bhp on pump gas (400+ whp)and more than 600bhp on race gas. :-k

Umm...That rear spoiler's gonna add drag at the back.

i am not sure it might be 40 degree.:p .the angle is 40ish degree.

I did 210kmph in a Honda accord 3.0 V6 in INDIA thats hard to do.........and 260 in a BMW 740li in germany between Franfurt and Stuggart

i will make 550 bhp on pump gas (400+ whp)and more than 600bhp on race gas. :-k


oh come on, grow up. you're like two kids fighting about his legos being stronger then yours...

As to Ghalos, your little calculation is very cute. Now, I've seen 500HP trucks that don't do 200 mph.

power loss in transmission differs from car to car even if they are from the same make and model.
Now you could say that you ignore transmission and focus on wheel horsepower but then you're only fooling yourself even more.

Shadyperson, without dyno you won't know how much power your car makes. After your cowboy stories I don't believe you anymore. Not that it matters a lot what I believe. If you're happy with yourself then that's just fine.

@ bhandarik, how did you like the stretch between frankfurt and stuttgart?

It's great to see what a car can do in a straight line IMO. long enough and when you're there early enough it's not even crowded as bad as after 6 in the morning. Topped out quite some of mercedes' middle class sedans there. Some speed limiters aren't as bad, some are a pain in the *** though. The benzes after 1995 have it figured out quite well I must say. The 190's, topping out at 220 kph/250 kph (1.8/2.5 liter) really cut all power to the rear wheels instantaniously which can be very unpleasant cause it rocks the car on the already soft suspension.

Sol's getting agro.

It's making me horny ^_^




:p


EDIT: Oy, check out my post count. I'm reading that book now.

^^^good book....that and Brave New World are my 2 fav books of recent

Sol's getting agro.

It's making me horny ^_^
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you're welcome.

there's nothing over some dirty talking to arouse or make people realize they're acting like kids :p

can't stand inaccurate or incomplete arguments in a discussion like this one (which is rather futileanyways), especially if some calculations are tossed in to impress but not convince.

can't stand inaccurate or incomplete arguments in a discussion like this one (which is rather futileanyways), especially if some calculations are tossed in to impress but not convince.

To be honest, the calculations weren't even necessary. Not only did I not understand them, but it's plainly obvious for all that our resident VR4 fanboy is a certified tool.

Besides, there are far too many variables, like wanna said. I couldn't be bothered pursuing top speed, it's fruitless, pointless, and more childish than stripping naked and screaming at the stars on a cold winter's night.

mehrshad should stop trying to pour effort into speeds he will never use and shorten his gear ratios. I wouldn't mind seeing a 500hp gt at the drags.

And Ghalos should stop wasting his time brow beating idiots. It just encourages them to keep posting more crap.

i will make 550 bhp on pump gas (400+ whp)and more than 600bhp on race gas. :-k
I have to interupt here. I've raced on everything from 90 octane leaded to nitromethane. My Super Gas car runs on 115. The motor in it has been dyno'd on 92 octane pump gas, 110 race gas, and 115 race gas. If you think that you're going to get more than 50 horsepower out of a 550 hp motor just by running race gas then you've been sniffing your fuel too much. Racing fuel is more efficient, burns smoother, and allows for a higher compression. It's not a magic horsepower maker. lol

3000gt/ stealth are not DSM.....[-X

DSM = Diamond Star motors

diamond Star Motors = Mitsubishi/Chrysler(among others)...

Look at the valve cover on the 3si....If it says Mitsubishi..it's a DSM...No, it's not from the Iowa/idaho whatever plant..but that doesn't change the fact that it is a DSM vehicle

Second..a 3000GT's stop top speed is about 157MPH......I don't care what your buddy did this one time on that one day on that one road......

facts = facts

lastly..http://www.geocities.com/z_design_studio/transmission_vr4_6.html


that right there will give you top speeds "theoretical" top speeds at that..based on tire size and gear ratio...

so at 7000RPM in 6th gear, he can do 235...in other words, unless he can sucessfully build a 3000GT which can top out in 5th gear no prob, with enough power to continue pulling in 6th...he hasn't a chance...and considering the fact that major tuning companies have yet to do it..i doubt Mr billy bob SCF forums can...

My top speeds

On my 1991 Ford Taurus Wagon I had it pinned way past 85 it was somewhere around Park in the gears at the bottem.

In my 1991 Toyota Corrola one day I tried to catch up to a GTO that flew by me and somehow my car hit 103 it was screeming like crazy and very unstable at that point and the GTO was still flying away from me.

In my 1999 Acura 3.2TL I have hit about 130mph. I wish it was a 2000 because then it would have a five speed transmision. The fourth gear of the 1999 is impossible to top out I think, at 130 I still had 2 grand to go before the redline. I usually try to hit 100mph at least once a week, there is a really good stretch of road to do it on around where I live. Three lanes wide and its just the start of the highway so the speed limit increases so the police do not sit there.
WOOO!!!!

In my 1999 Acura 3.2TL I have hit about 130mph. I wish it was a 2000 because then it would have a five speed transmision. The fourth gear of the 1999 is impossible to top out I think, at 130 I still had 2 grand to go before the redline. I usually try to hit 100mph at least once a week, there is a really good stretch of road to do it on around where I live. Three lanes wide and its just the start of the highway so the speed limit increases so the police do not sit there.
WOOO!!!!
This is something that a lot of people don't know... You wouldn't have gone any faster with a 5 speed. 4th gear is 1:1 (or very close to it) and the same on a 5 speed except a 5 speed has overdrive. Cars top out in drive. There are maybe 3 street legal cars that will redline in 5th gear. The Acura's not one of them. In fact in most cars with a 5 speed if you max the car out in 4th and shift into 5th you'll slow down because the car doesn't have the torque or the gearing to keep up the speed.

This is something that a lot of people don't know... You wouldn't have gone any faster with a 5 speed. 4th gear is 1:1 (or very close to it) and the same on a 5 speed except a 5 speed has overdrive. Cars top out in drive. There are maybe 3 street legal cars that will redline in 5th gear. The Acura's not one of them. In fact in most cars with a 5 speed if you max the car out in 4th and shift into 5th you'll slow down because the car doesn't have the torque or the gearing to keep up the speed.

Thank you for the insite, but I wasn't saying that it would redline in fifth . I think that it would be geard differently in fourth and would be able to reach a higher top speed because I have heard of speeds over 150mph in a 2000 or above which has a five speed in it.

I have to interupt here. I've raced on everything from 90 octane leaded to nitromethane. My Super Gas car runs on 115. The motor in it has been dyno'd on 92 octane pump gas, 110 race gas, and 115 race gas. If you think that you're going to get more than 50 horsepower out of a 550 hp motor just by running race gas then you've been sniffing your fuel too much. Racing fuel is more efficient, burns smoother, and allows for a higher compression. It's not a magic horsepower maker. lol

i will boost up the turbos as well.18psi on pump gas (93octain) and about 24psi on c16 race gas.i can even boost more but my fuel injectors are too small.

DSM = Diamond Star motors

diamond Star Motors = Mitsubishi/Chrysler(among others)...

Look at the valve cover on the 3si....If it says Mitsubishi..it's a DSM...No, it's not from the Iowa/idaho whatever plant..but that doesn't change the fact that it is a DSM vehicle

Second..a 3000GT's stop top speed is about 157MPH......I don't care what your buddy did this one time on that one day on that one road......

facts = facts

lastly..http://www.geocities.com/z_design_studio/transmission_vr4_6.html


that right there will give you top speeds "theoretical" top speeds at that..based on tire size and gear ratio...

so at 7000RPM in 6th gear, he can do 235...in other words, unless he can sucessfully build a 3000GT which can top out in 5th gear no prob, with enough power to continue pulling in 6th...he hasn't a chance...and considering the fact that major tuning companies have yet to do it..i doubt Mr billy bob SCF forums can...

3000gts and stealths are not DSM's.like evos, 3/s are mad by mitsubishi.DSM was a joint project between Dodge (Chrysler) and Mitsubishi. From it was borne the eclipses (1st and 2nd gen) Talons, Lasers, Galants, etc. Generally each had a variety of trims, varying from N/A to turbo, to a few all wheel drive turbo drivetrains. They were all built in the US. Though the Stealth and 3000GT were a joint venture, they were ALL built in Japan (Nagoya) and Dodge had pretty much nothing to do with any of the engineering and producting, other than the redesign of the exterior. They are not DSMs At all. i cant see that website you put there. it's java and i can't see it.
a stock vr4 can brak to 160mph.even a non turbo 3000gt pass 157.stock vr4 has 230awhp.so duble that power will makes big diffrence.
i am not trying to make you guys belive my car can pass 200mph .i am jost trying to prove a vr4 can pass 200mph if it had the power like 500+whp.maybe my car can't pass 200mph .i ask 3si people and some of them said you can and some of them said with my power i should pass 195mph.there is a guy who has same setup as mine and he pass 199mph.he has a picture of it too.some people saw it not me.

oh come on, grow up. you're like two kids fighting about his legos being stronger then yours...

As to Ghalos, your little calculation is very cute. Now, I've seen 500HP trucks that don't do 200 mph.

power loss in transmission differs from car to car even if they are from the same make and model.
Now you could say that you ignore transmission and focus on wheel horsepower but then you're only fooling yourself even more.

Shadyperson, without dyno you won't know how much power your car makes. After your cowboy stories I don't believe you anymore. Not that it matters a lot what I believe. If you're happy with yourself then that's just fine.

@ bhandarik, how did you like the stretch between frankfurt and stuttgart?

It's great to see what a car can do in a straight line IMO. long enough and when you're there early enough it's not even crowded as bad as after 6 in the morning. Topped out quite some of mercedes' middle class sedans there. Some speed limiters aren't as bad, some are a pain in the *** though. The benzes after 1995 have it figured out quite well I must say. The 190's, topping out at 220 kph/250 kph (1.8/2.5 liter) really cut all power to the rear wheels instantaniously which can be very unpleasant cause it rocks the car on the already soft suspension.

he said bhp not whp.:D and the gear ratio is really important too.i have seen 600whp civic top out at 140mph.

Last week, a guy here in my city crashed and killed himself and his girlfriend in a turbo E46 M3, in the news said that he was going around 280-290 KPH, that's about 175-180 MPH!!! , the M3 hit a truck ass and got completely destroyed.
The guy was DUI
Alcohol+Speed=Nasty Dead

.......
mehrshad should stop trying to pour effort into speeds he will never use and shorten his gear ratios. I wouldn't mind seeing a 500hp gt at the drags.

And Ghalos should stop wasting his time brow beating idiots. It just encourages them to keep posting more crap.

my point, just better put :p

vr4 boy, bhp is measured at the freewheel. that means all the losses in transmission still have to be deducted from it to find out the actual amount of wheel horsepower or kW which you will actually be able to put on the road.

I really enjoyed reading your reply to driftsters input in teh matter.
So, if you can't see the website because you don't have java installed or active means that the information does not exist?

Very interesting statement. I will definately enjoy speaking to you in the future. Do you have any figures on how much boost the stock turbo on your car can take btw? Model and type would be interesting as well. I'm looking for a cheap turbo to replace my current one.

I drove at least 100 mph in Canada when i was goin to Brampton. It was fun with my lotus. Canadian police sucks but its good for racing there.

So you have a Lotus but started a thread asking if it is worth buying an Elise? If you have owned ANY Lotus you would know the answer to that. What kind of Lotus did drive 'at least 100 mph' in?

Thank you for the insite, but I wasn't saying that it would redline in fifth . I think that it would be geard differently in fourth and would be able to reach a higher top speed because I have heard of speeds over 150mph in a 2000 or above which has a five speed in it.
No problem. I did some checking. The 4th gear ratio in the 5 speed is .98:1 and in the 4 speed it's 1:1. That wouldn't make enough difference to give you even 5 mph more. I also found out that to take a 2000 3.2 to 150 takes a few minor mods... intake, exhaust, maybe a chip. Simple bolt on stuff that's not too expensive.

i will boost up the turbos as well.18psi on pump gas (93octain) and about 24psi on c16 race gas.i can even boost more but my fuel injectors are too small.



3000gts and stealths are not DSM's.like evos, 3/s are mad by mitsubishi.DSM was a joint project between Dodge (Chrysler) and Mitsubishi. From it was borne the eclipses (1st and 2nd gen) Talons, Lasers, Galants, etc. Generally each had a variety of trims, varying from N/A to turbo, to a few all wheel drive turbo drivetrains. They were all built in the US. Though the Stealth and 3000GT were a joint venture, they were ALL built in Japan (Nagoya) and Dodge had pretty much nothing to do with any of the engineering and producting, other than the redesign of the exterior. They are not DSMs At all. i cant see that website you put there. it's java and i can't see it.
a stock vr4 can brak to 160mph.even a non turbo 3000gt pass 157.stock vr4 has 230awhp.so duble that power will makes big diffrence.
i am not trying to make you guys belive my car can pass 200mph .i am jost trying to prove a vr4 can pass 200mph if it had the power like 500+whp.maybe my car can't pass 200mph .i ask 3si people and some of them said you can and some of them said with my power i should pass 195mph.there is a guy who has same setup as mine and he pass 199mph.he has a picture of it too.some people saw it not me.



he said bhp not whp.:D and the gear ratio is really important too.i have seen 600whp civic top out at 140mph.
First of all, DO NOT TRIPLE POST! If you do it again I won't merge them I'll just delete them. Thanks. Second, your posts don't make much sense but if you're going to run 24 psi on race gas good luck with your valves...

I see this thread has degraded into a pithin (pardon the lisp ;) )
contest. As to mershadyvr4dsm & elisefaker's spurious claims...

VVVVVVV

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To be honest, the calculations weren't even necessary. Not only did I not understand them, but it's plainly obvious for all that our resident VR4 fanboy is a certified tool.

And Ghalos should stop wasting his time brow beating idiots. It just encourages them to keep posting more crap.

Oh I know, that's why I stopped after awhile. ;)

The calculation is general, it takes into account a car's power and the density of air. And truth be told, it'd need to be alooot longer, and more complex to show the actual power output needed at the flywheel to crack 200mph, because you'd have to take into account powerloss, and most importantly, drag. The real number is probably closer to 570.

And I'm no mathematician.

I drove at least 100 mph in Canada when i was goin to Brampton. It was fun with my lotus. Canadian police sucks but its good for racing there.


u made a thread to buy a Lotus Elise a few hours ago. id u buy it allready? :-k [-X

He needs to buy the Idiots Guide to Proper Lying

So you have a Lotus but started a thread asking if it is worth buying an Elise? If you have owned ANY Lotus you would know the answer to that. What kind of Lotus did drive 'at least 100 mph' in?


No problem. I did some checking. The 4th gear ratio in the 5 speed is .98:1 and in the 4 speed it's 1:1. That wouldn't make enough difference to give you even 5 mph more. I also found out that to take a 2000 3.2 to 150 takes a few minor mods... intake, exhaust, maybe a chip. Simple bolt on stuff that's not too expensive.


First of all, DO NOT TRIPLE POST! If you do it again I won't merge them I'll just delete them. Thanks. Second, your posts don't make much sense but if you're going to run 24 psi on race gas good luck with your valves...

the stock engine has been proven to hold 30psi on stock internal.

I'm sure they can... that doesn't mean the stock internals can handle the temps of the racing fuel. Think about it

I'm sure they can... that doesn't mean the stock internals can handle the temps of the racing fuel. Think about it

i thought racing fule makes less heat. anyway i will add met/water injectors as well.

They don't make less heat, they burn a bit slower though. It actually depends on the fuel.

Try some VP Fuels Motorsport 109. It's a good racing unleaded fuel designed for turbo charged engines up to 11:1 compression.

my point, just better put :p

vr4 boy, bhp is measured at the freewheel. that means all the losses in transmission still have to be deducted from it to find out the actual amount of wheel horsepower or kW which you will actually be able to put on the road.

I really enjoyed reading your reply to driftsters input in teh matter.
So, if you can't see the website because you don't have java installed or active means that the information does not exist?

Very interesting statement. I will definately enjoy speaking to you in the future. Do you have any figures on how much boost the stock turbo on your car can take btw? Model and type would be interesting as well. I'm looking for a cheap turbo to replace my current one.
i have 15g turbos and 550cc injectors,FMIC down pipe ,no cat and 3" catback,SAFC,255 fuel pump.some people pushed them to 28psibut i won't do that.the turbo should hold 20psi to the red line.
I don't know how to quote 2 or more people on one reply.please some one tell me how.

I don't know how to quote 2 or more people on one reply.please some one tell me how.
Check out the picture... hit the " button on the first one you want to wuote, then the 'quote' button on the last one you want to quote...


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http://www.sportscarforums.com/f13/what-camber-2069.html

this should explain camber angle nicely to you dark.. take a read of this :) http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html
what i know is its basically the angle of the wheel (for example l <-- that is vertical) that the wheels are at, for example / / (thats meant to be a wheel). if the wheel is pointing inwards, its called 'negative' camber. if it's pointing outwards, its called 'positive' camber. this can affect the steering, and also the duration of the tires, as u can guess, because a smaller surface area of the wheel is touching the tarmac. for more detailed i'd read that link.. thats detailed enough :).

I went 90 MPH in my new car yesterday until I had to slow way down because they blocked off the 2 fast lanes which caused a bunch of traffic backup.

60mph, but i dont have a license

this should explain camber angle nicely to you dark.. take a read of this :) http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html
what i know is its basically the angle of the wheel (for example l <-- that is vertical) that the wheels are at, for example / / (thats meant to be a wheel). if the wheel is pointing inwards, its called 'negative' camber. if it's pointing outwards, its called 'positive' camber. this can affect the steering, and also the duration of the tires, as u can guess, because a smaller surface area of the wheel is touching the tarmac. for more detailed i'd read that link.. thats detailed enough :).

Nice description. Suspention stuff is really a black zone in my mind.
But just for the record that guy was banned about a year ago.

130 in the Corvette

Check out the picture... hit the " button on the first one you want to wuote, then the 'quote' button on the last one you want to quote...


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how the hell you teached yourself...and i have never looked at a mods page of SCF sure its good stuff...