The Nissan Skyline GT -R R34 is the best car in the world . Who agrees ? Who doesn't tell me why ????

i disagree - its one of my favourite cars but i dont think its better than something like a Pagini Zonda.

Yes Mallon i have seen the Zonda . Its is a beautiful car , but caM never be compared to the R34skyline. No other engine like the RB26DETT can be modified to such an extent . It truly is the greatest car ever created. EVER.

yeah, i wasnt comparing it though. Im just saying that i prefer it, as a car.
Personally I dont consider the most tunable car to be the best car in the world, so an R34 cant be top. If have have the cash there are more tunable engines. Look what AC S/Alpina have done with S54's, and they have so much more torque than any skyline setup.

yeah , u rite Mallon , But look at the Skyline! Its beautiful ! There is a perfect balance of Looks power and comfort . Its my opinion though . Which car can even touch the skyline ?Nothin

Hey another thing , I cried last week for 4 hrs . Why ?I saw the pic of the R35 . Its is ugly as hell > How could they deface the Skyline ????? Why????????Dissapiontment is huge here . Why the hell did they make the R35 so ugly . Sure it has power , but y????
GOD Y?
My life is ova :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Hey Mallon , help me out here without laughin ok?

How would you go about doing a burnout with a car with automatic transmission and
then
how would you go about doing a burnout wih a car with manual transmission?
Is there anyway to pop a wheelie in a car
2 back wheels go up OR 2 front wheels go up ?

Thnx man :?

look here at your post!

http://www.sportscarforums.com/showthread.php?t=305&highlight=

I want to say something about these cars.I saw a modified R34 with 1000+ hp but what about its torque???Pagani Zonda has a very good torque (7300 cc from Mercedes).R U kidding me?I don't remember very well the torques(exactly)but I can't say that a modified R34 is better than a Zonda.

Calm down... The R34 is a great car and is very tunable, but there are many better cars in the world.

That's what I'm sayin. Skylines are nice cars, but I do agree that there are better cars. And you live in Sydney right? Why not the ole WRX!!!!! haha

R34 is a cool car. But the best car ever made is the '68 Dodge Charger R/T. Please don't ask me why. I don't want to go into a rant.

...everyone has his own opinion! :D
BTW, Mopar, I'd like to see some pics and the specs of this Dodge you are talking about.

But ur sig says the Coronet is the best...

I would agree that the charger rt is an awesome car, but probably not the best one.

R34 is a nice looking car , but cannot even tips about the Italian car style!

R34 , i don't know really or it's a GOOD car , but i know for sure , there are SOOO much better cars in this world like uhhh................... Alfa Romeo :D , Ferrari , Maserati , Fiat , , yeah ya know , ITALIAN CARS! RULE THE WORLD!

Sorry , :D

Greetz : Danny!

Alfa Romeo & Fiat?? FIAT?? :? :? :? :?
You think that any Alfa or Fiat is better than the Skyline??? :? :?
Wow... and I thought I had seen and heard everything in this world!!





(FIAT, FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? )

@ Jim!

Yeah i was a bit kiddin , BUt i don;t think Fiat is a bad car , and i really don't know why much people think that!

I can only imagine myself one reason and that's the name Fiat build in the early years , always probs and rust!

Now i can tell ya something : Rust , NEVER!! AnymorE! , Problems ?
Now with the people i spoken with and 1 of him was an old ,Fiat , Lancia , Alfa Romeo dealer! Even He said , NO FIAT , and ALfa Romeo are really NO UNreliable cars!
BUt much people think for 30 years back , Fiat and Alfa are still in combination with Rust..
Now i can tell ya that's totally bullcrap!
And he says Alfa's engine are 1 of the most reliable of the world , But it's the @#$ electronics! , And you know by yourself , when do you see a Alfa Romeo with real ENGINE failures? not electrical or something,

Now i can tell ya my experience :

My parents are divorced
My mum is married agian :

The huspent of my mum drive's a Nissan Terrano II
my mum drive's a Fiat Seicento and before the seicento a Cinquecento

My dad drive's a Alfa Romeo 155 1.8 8v from 1992!

OK : BOTH the Fiat's even the OLD Cinquecento we NEVER have any probs with it and it was always starting and running! , and my mum drive's alot from her house to my house is about 120 km so ... that 3 or 2 times in a week = 720 km! keej ?

Now my dad's Alfa : the most beautiful car we ever had, NO prob;s even the exhaust is the original one!! now can you find much other cars from 1992 with the original exhaust!??
Absolutly NO rust !! And every day he'' s in the rain , And i tell ya here in the Netherlands it rain's alot!
But we have Sometimes in the VERY hot summer that the window at the passenger side won't close then you need to wait 5 sec. and it's working agian , yes indeed Italian electronics! , BUt that not makes the car unrelaible!

Well , now my experience of The TerranoII quite nice looking car , born in 2003 And NOTHING ELSE than Problems!
fisrt : The Aircondition didn't get cold anymore , brought him to the dealer and it was fixed for 2 days , the airco gonna behave hisself strange agian so agian BACK to he dealer , well finally it's fixed..
About a month later a compleet drive axis felt under the car and was just broken they said by the dealer! well cool when you driving a SUV! :( ( NOT)

My mum was driving me home , with the car of her huspent , when we came home i saw oil MUCH oil came from under the engine , well i desided to drive slowly to the nearest NIssan Garage it was only about 4 km. from my home , they've looked directly for me because i've worked over there! They said and show me : the oil pipe of the vacuumpump was leaking!
Well i think your right !! Japanese is sooo damn reliable! pfff

NO Fiat isn't that unrelaible anymore as it was.... same with Alfa!!! But Lancia , i don't know for sure!

And please don;t tell me i'm just lucky !

Greetz : Danny!

And Jim Don't forget Nissan , is getting more unrelaible now because it's part of Renault now The garage i've worked was a Renault /NIssan dealer
It's called : Bochane/ Bosan, well even the Nissan and Renault mechanics said : Now when Nissan is Part of the renault , MUCH Electronical prob's are there for Nissan!

Well , thanx renault! ;) ;)

Greetz : Danny!

:twisted: ITS A DAMN GOOD CAR, IN FACT, THE SECOND BEST JAPANESE!!!!!!

:arrow: SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STi, That's the ****!!!!

:arrow: :wink: Impreza007

skyline is heavy PERIOD
yea its a nice car and all that but its not worth 100, USD
a z06 can burn a skyline on any track and its cheaper, i think for 100, grand a nice car would be a SL55 AMG
another good car is the GT2

skyline is heavy PERIOD
yea its a nice car and all that but its not worth 100, USD
a z06 can burn a skyline on any track and its cheaper, i think for 100, grand a nice car would be a SL55 AMG
another good car is the GT2

You are right there, the Z06 can toss up with car's with double or triple it's price, it idles like a rolex, but on demand, power is available whenever you need, two thumbs up for the Z06.

As for the Skyline being the best car out there.....naah, i'd take an M3 over an Skyline even if the skyline is better, why? why do u think the 1200hp skylines dont break 10 seconds quarter mile? because they lack torque, and even if tunable, there is something about an stock car, i dont know, i have a tuned car, but i like stock cars, there is a certain something there, different to the hard work spent on the car but still gorgeous

:arrow: Alfa Romeo 156 GTA

I know that Fiat/Alfa/Lancia are improving in the last years. The specific cars you mention might be exceptions, because people I know with Fiats and Alfas have had LOTS of problems and they live half their life in a garage trying to fix the car!
And let me tell you something else: my dad still has a Nissan from '88 (that's 15 years, with 175K kilometers on it) and the car has NEVER EVER had any kind of problems up until now. It's still running as new, and my opinion is that it's running even better than our two newer cars.

Don't get me wrong, I like italian cars too, they're nice to drive, but I vote for German and Japanese cars. :)

hehe Jim :

Strange to hear , our experience with cars are totally diffrent!

my dad drive's a Mazda 323 before this Alfa and with that Mazda ( it was not a REALLY bad car) But we still had a lot of trouble !
Now we are quite happy with my dad because he's a car mechanic so he could fix that baby up most ofthe times , but with tha Alfa something like that is NEVER happened Yet!

The Alfa is running like new to , only our valve's have to be set on time again ( hope you know what i mean , nothing is broke or something )

Here in The Netherlands You saw SAW quite much japanese cars but the time when the latest Mazda 626 came out , THEY all disapeerd! THen there came MORE and more Italians on the road! Especially the Alfa 156 !! we ain't see MUCH japanese cars on the roads anymore!

But i must say that i know Japanese cars where alwatys reliable but the last hmm two tree years i hear nothing more than bad things about them!

P.S And don't forget Jim : I like some Japanese cars to , even some Very much !
Like : Nissan Skyline R34!
MAzda Rx-7! ect.

Greetz : Danny!

:twisted: ITS A DAMN GOOD CAR, IN FACT, THE SECOND BEST JAPANESE!!!!!!

:arrow: SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STi, That's the [ censored ]!!!!

:arrow: :wink: Impreza007

I agree... but WRX isnt Japanese

The WRX is made by Subaru, Subaru is a Japanese company....alright, I guess what you just said might make sence.....(I'm being REALLY sarcastic) unless you know something I dont, WRX is Japanese. Anyway, the Evo is better :twisted: And as for above, Alfa's and ESPECIALLY Fiats, are total peices of crap. Unless you are a master mechanic, and like spending LOTS of time trying to fix cars, you should most definitly never get a Fiat. Now I dont know about the new ones reliability, but they are still not very good looking.

Yeah, sorry. Quite a few posts back i posted that the '68 Charger R/T was the best car ever made. Sorry, I meant the Coronet R/T. Again, please don't ask me why.

And here is a link to a Coronet R/T. ( I only post links because i've got no idea how to post a pic).

http://www.musclecarcalendar.com/joelmainfp.htm

make sure to listen to the 440 rev!

YEAH DUDE! Now thats what an engine should sound like! That thing is f'n beastly as all hell man. Thats not your car is it? Or do you have one thats similiar? Cuz that is boss!

Ok Ok You're right.... :D But I like saying they're Austrailian cuz most people believe me hehehehe I'm so sneaky :D

Jim, u said - ...everyone has his own opinion! How bout HER AND HIS own opinion ?? IF u dont mind :x lol oh and Alfa Romeo, u have good taste :wink:

???????????????????????????????????????? ??????????

You can't imagine what FIAT can do.I searched all about FIAT.When FIAT was designing aeroplanes Subaru was trying to place wheels in their cars.Don't look what is going on now.Our boss is dead.What do you expect???They are different cars.FIAT don't give a sh*t about these cars like Skyline...What do you think?Fiat can't produce a car like that?YOU'RE WRONG.FIAT CAN PRODUCT ENGINES THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT.In World War 2 the airplanes that Italians was bombing had FIAT engines.FIAT can product cars like Skyline but FIAT designed to be close to their people.They don't want to people think that their cars is a dream like Skyline.I don't know for you but for me a Skyline is dream.I don't have the money to buy it and if I had them I'll try to buy something else.Not a Japanese ugly car like NSX or Skyline or even the ugliest car,Supra.That's my opinion and don't yell on FIAT.You don't know what these Italians can really do.They are all friends...And you want something about your $$$#^&& crap(SKYLINE)????Pick the B-Engineering Edonis and compare them...Even a tuned Skyline.Can a tuned Skyline reach 91 kg of torque???
It isn't a FIAT but it is Italian.Italians can do amazing things.And FIAT is still Italian,so don't yell at FIAT.

HEHE Thank u , Ferrari 360 Chic!

and Schummi your right , that;s something i really don't like!! much , VERY much people do underestimate , Fiat and Alfa Romeo! , And somewere i must say this is it quite logical people who don't have much experience with Italian cars can't now that , and they still know THE OLD stories , Like Italian cars ALWAYS probs, Rust like hell! , But that's all bullsh*t now...

And Schumi you even drove with a Fiat Coupe 2.0 20V Turbo Plus?

WWWWAAAAAAAAAAOOOW What a car!! Just excelent!! WhAT a Power!



But ok , There still only 1 no. 1 Car , and that is : FERRARI!!

Greetz : Danny!

http://www.fiatcoupe-freunde.de/Bilder/Meeting020519/ClausStoltefaut.jpg

Nice pic! :wink:

LoL ! Itz a GREAT DAMN good car, but itz not mah Fav.

That car has some letters near the doors.It says 20V Turbo right?Whenever I see that car I want to drive it.I never drove that car but I want to so much.I am only 18...

if you compare the pagani zonda and the nissan skyline the nissan skyline is better imo it has the highly tuneable engine and the handeling, the pagani zonda is a beautiful car and i do admire it but only 25 are produced every year so chances of getting it are slim to none, there is also the high price 280K for the 394hp version to 350K for the 550hp version. If you take something like the blitz skyline with only 890hp that tops at 213mph then that would be a fair comparison. Now lets say we take a pagani zonda and the blitz skyline to the race track or any place that really matters; the skyline would win pure and simple why? because it is an all wheel drive 4 wheel steering machine versus the rear wheel driven pagani zonda. And lets not forget 890hp is not the full potential of the nissan skyline it can be tuned to over 1300hp. So thats why the nissan skyline GT-R R34 is the greatest car in the world, all wheel drive and monster perfromance, for the price and perfromance you cannot get anything better and just because its only a "nissan" does not mean it cannot perform.

what you say if well put and very true.
It can beat the Pagini Zonda around a track - but does that make it the best car in the world?

A race track is where cars show their true abilities, every single sports car company has pinned their car as the "ultimate sports car" If a car cannot perform around the track then it may not be the ultimate sports car, now i am not saying that the pagani zonda cannot perform i am saying that for allround performance the nissan skyline is the best car in the world. I ask you this because the Mclaren F1 has proven race technology does it make it one of the best sports cars in the world? yes it does Race technology is what car companies use to better their products for on road performance, Where as the nissan skyline can be driven on a track and on road without any modifications

The skyline is pretty cool but defninately not the best in the world! Who was it that said they make 1200 hp but cant break the 10 second range? THat is pathetic if you ask me I have seen 6-700 HP Mustangs break that range.

IN my opinion Porsche and ferrari are the best in the world. Just look at the Enzo. Motor trend tested that car in the 1/4 mile and it got 10.77 or something close to that. Plus that enzo has incredible handling. Porsche also made the Carrera GT and they predict that thing will be in the 10 sec range as well. Plus it is naturally aspirated.

And that Skyline comes stock with a twin turbo V6 or something 6 right? Well the BMW m3 is inline six naturally aspirated and it can beat a skyline in performance. Hell if you throw a supercharger on a M3 you are beating 360 modenas and I have seen a turbocharged M3 beat a Viper SRT-10.

And speaking of vipers, they are also crazy as hell. YOu think a skyline with 1200Hp is impressive. Well I have seen on, forgot the website i think it was supercars.net, and this viper had 1700HP and 1800 lb-ft of torque.

So the skyline is far, far from being the best. IF the skyline is so great i would really like to see it race in the Speed Gt class against some real competition!

The skyline is pretty cool but defninately not the best in the world! Who was it that said they make 1200 hp but cant break the 10 second range? THat is pathetic if you ask me I have seen 6-700 HP Mustangs break that range.

IN my opinion Porsche and ferrari are the best in the world. Just look at the Enzo. Motor trend tested that car in the 1/4 mile and it got 10.77 or something close to that. Plus that enzo has incredible handling. Porsche also made the Carrera GT and they predict that thing will be in the 10 sec range as well. Plus it is naturally aspirated.

And that Skyline comes stock with a twin turbo V6 or something 6 right? Well the BMW m3 is inline six naturally aspirated and it can beat a skyline in performance. Hell if you throw a supercharger on a M3 you are beating 360 modenas and I have seen a turbocharged M3 beat a Viper SRT-10.

And speaking of vipers, they are also crazy as hell. YOu think a skyline with 1200Hp is impressive. Well I have seen on, forgot the website i think it was supercars.net, and this viper had 1700HP and 1800 lb-ft of torque.

So the skyline is far, far from being the best. IF the skyline is so great i would really like to see it race in the Speed Gt class against some real competition!?

your really should have done your homework

Skylines come in different model trims the GT-R is the most prised and is the best sports car in the world If you would have done your homeworkr you would have known that the skyline does 0-60 in 4.7 seconds and stock horspower is rated at over 327 not the factory claimed 276. As for the the BMW M3 it is a wonderful car but the skyline still is better then it, the M3 does 0-60 in 5.2 and lets not forget that the M3 is lighter and has more horsepower then the GT-R. and that is all from a 2.6L engine
here are some 1/4 times and numbers for your enjoyment http://exvitermini.com/records.htm

The skyline IS the best car man and a 1700hp viper woppy do! its a freakin truck engine with big displacement where is the technology in that?
and last but not least why hans't the skyline raced in Gt class events, it has but not that gay euro **** FIA ****, its compeating in the JGTC 500 class right now against cars like the mclaren f1, lamborghini diablo ferrari 360 porsche 911 and so on.

I really believe that the Skyline could kick some serious ass, but only with a great deal of modifications. Stock, I can list MANY cars better than the Skyline.

heavy modification is not needed the tuneability of the RB26DETT makes it the best car in the world

Hey Thlam Yeah I am so wrong when it comes to times on the M3! IF you dont like it you can go complain to car and driver and Roand and track! The 0-60 info you got on the M3 was most likely the E36 model. That model has 321 HP and 258 Lb-ft of torque.

HOwever I am talking about the newer m3's the E46 model It has 343 Hp and 262 Lb ft of torque. It is faster. Plus it is naturally aspirated. Here are the times that road and track had it.
0-60 4.7sec
0-100 11.6 sec
1/4 13.3
Lets see the skyline naturally aspirated do that!

And that little website, wow not very impressive. Those guys put hundreds of thousands of dollars in their cars to makeit go in a straight line. That wont help you out at some of GErmanys toughest tracks!

AND THE JGTC!!!! HAHAHAH MAN THOSE GUYS SUCK AT DRIVING COMPARED TO THE EUROPEANS! IF they are so confident in the skyline that it is the king why doesnt it take on germany head on!
No they have to race only in Japan. They are much afraid of what will happen to the skyline when it faces companies like ferrari porsche audi bmw and so on.

Talking about japan defeating Germany is laughable! HAHAHAHA

And for the European races being gay.

Yeah I am sure you are a ***** completing the 24 hours of lemans! YEah it is nothing compared to the JGTC. Those Japanese know everything about racing dont they! They get a twin turbo stock skyline only making 327 Hp from the factory. Wow that is hardcore even though the Bimmer is naturally aspirated and has 343 HP.
Now that is what I call good german engineering.

Yes I will have to agree with Porschesarecool.

2.6L V6 pumping out upwards of 1300hp is that technology if you don't call it technology then i don't know what is

A car with that much horsepower can only go in a straight line. It is impressive however. And having a lot of horsepower doesnt mean it will go fast. Ive seen corvettes with 900 HP do 8, 9 second quarter miles.

If you have the money you can make any car go fast.

its all wheel drive man it can do more then go in a straight line, and your not impressed with an engine thats only 2.6 litres pumping out more then 1000hp?



you can't make just any car go fast all cars have their limits, can you actually make a....kia rio go 200mph no you can't

I am not sayin that it is not impressive, iti s! Plus that aint no daily driver, or is it?
Well 2 questions for that skyline.

What would one of those puppies do the quarter mile in?
How much torque do thay have?

well the older one does 13.7 in a quarter mile , and torque 292.9 Nm / 216 Ft-lbs @ 4400 RPM

hey i aw the R-35 but its a concept so it doesnt have to be ugly if they do it right. also i dont think the skyline is the best car. just b/c it could go up tp 1200HP and all that doesnt mean its all good. still the McF1 is krazy i like that car the most. woooo 1 million dollars ****!!!1 :shock:

But the Bugatti veyron is better than the mclaren :D

For Skyline lovers: Like I said, faster does not necessarily means better.

hey i aw the R-35 but its a concept so it doesnt have to be ugly if they do it right.

it is to be a production car, in 2005 if if I remember correctly.

i hope its only a concept though its too ugly to be the next skyline

what dont you like about its looks. I think its the best looking skyline yet. However not the best skyline, because going only be looks its going to be just another sportscar.

The front is really ugly, but the back is beautiful, the car seems too much like an infiniti and not a nissan in the front

NOO i think the R35 is VERY ugly!!!

I think it's lookling WAY to futuristic i'm dissapointed.. but anyway i knew i would be VERY hard to make a more beautifull and better car than the R34

Greetz : Danny!

Hi there everyone..., this is my first post on this site(topic) cause I am a fan of nissan r34 too.....
Well, I wouldn't say that the r34 is the best car ever..., but I would also say that it is... :roll:
Cause I haven't found a car to replace the r34 yet... :D but I would say ferrari & lamborghini's would be my other choices...

And about the r35 model..., well I gotta say I am real dissappointed by it's design... man, how could they design such concept for the skyline..... :cry:

But anyways, just hope that FUTURE models of the skyline will look great... :wink:

Welcome to the boards, xXx. :D

i was reading auto news awhile ago and apprently the R35 won't be released until 2007! :shock:

Thanx Jim..., :wink:

And bout the r35, Thlam you sure that it's 2007... :? ??
Cause it's a long, long time to go man..... :shock:

I've seen 8 liter engines with 8000HP and even more torque.

Talk about technology.

:lol:

I love the skyline because of its original styling, its innovative drivetrain and its horsepower capabilities. Its a one of a kind, and no car will match it. Ever. When I saw the R35 I almost cried. If that car ever goes into production..... (fill in the blank) It has barely any of the R34 styling and its just plain ugly.. who cares about the power.. I hope the thing never makes it. BTW, welcome xXx. im new too.. just started today

The Skyline IS an awesom car, PERIOD!!!!! If i could afford the $95,000, I'd buy one in a second. i love everything about it, the powertrain, styling, performance, and potential. and the best thing is that there aren't that many in America.

The R34 will be missed and NEVER replaced, especially by any 35 series. Nissan's stupidist move ever, next to bringing the 350Z back to america instead of the Skyline!

i look at the AutoArt R34 V-Spec II sitting above my monitor all the time and dream! and any driver game, the skyline is the first and only car i buy and max out.


I had to sign up to the board just to give my 2 cents.

:twisted:

Stunningly enough, I'm inlcined to agree. This really isn't a "good" reason i suppose, but it's the best car on my Sega GT 2002 file :lol: Anyway, it is indeed like the best car ever, I can't see how anyone can say anything against it.

I love the R34, and how MINE tuned it to make the MINE'S R34 :!:
Its a beast :twisted:

yeah it was amazing, the engine was soo rev happy

Its a good car, but the best, lol not by a long shot....
As far as Jap cars I think the Supra is better, and it looks better.

How does a car looking better make it a better car? Style is different for every person, and what we are trting to determine is overall, which car is the best. Best handling, speed, and general performance, either stock or potential.

How does a car looking better make it a better car? Style is different for every person, and what we are trting to determine is overall, which car is the best. Best handling, speed, and general performance, either stock or potential.

Thats why I said it is better AND it looks better.

but the skyline has all wheel steering and a bunch of computer management controls the Supra does not

but the skyline has all wheel steering and a bunch of computer management controls the Supra does not

I DON'T want AWS, many of the top tuners remove it, most real drivers hate it.

but the skyline has all wheel steering and a bunch of computer management controls the Supra does not

I DON'T want AWS, many of the top tuners remove it, most real drivers hate it.

Some of the 300ZX have AWS alot of performance oriented owners get rid of it.

What exact "computer management controls" does the Supra not have the Skyline does have??

but the skyline has all wheel steering and a bunch of computer management controls the Supra does not

I DON'T want AWS, many of the top tuners remove it, most real drivers hate it.

Some of the 300ZX have AWS alot of performance oriented owners get rid of it.

What exact "computer management controls" does the Supra not have the Skyline does have??


I forgot about those, and yeah what "computer magagement controls" ????

the amazing gtr r-34 is out of production now so it can be called a legend.....
its tru2 though that its a hell of a car wit outstanding after market modifications...
but when its bought as a stock car its has bit of prob over weight and the rb26dett output is kinda low and the power to weight ratio is low and in the sense of performance .. you know wat i mean..
the looks of it is truely awesome nobody can stand the sexy tail lights it has.....
the standard price for it is kinda high when you compared it to a evo.....50,000 to 30,000...
the evo has the simular output as the r-34 in stock and the handling.... so i guess its kinda bad :cry: .but when it is being mod :evil: its one hell of a road car ,..............
it has a performance computer inside though.. thats a good thing.....
verdict...four star ...max is five.
good for:performance,handling
against : comfort,price,,interior quality(simply too simple)

hey, about the comparison with the BMW m3; doesn't the m3 have 600cc more displacement than the skyline?

also; by adding 200cc to the skyline engine (400R), it add 50 HP; if BMW has 600cc (3x more) extra displacement, why doesn't it have 150 more HP?

Because the M3 is NA and the Skyline is twin turbo. This wasn't really smart.

well the skyline was also tuned to near perfection

oh... i see.... i thought BMW was actually MUCH BETTER than nissan.....

well the skyline was also tuned to near perfection

damn straight it was.....

also, did jimk (w/e his name was) realize there was a little SARCASM going there?

oh... i see.... i thought BMW was actually MUCH BETTER than nissan.....
Never in a million years :twisted:

also, did jimk (w/e his name was) realize there was a little SARCASM going there?
Oh... really...? :roll:

uhh... yeah... :lol:

ok guys.. back to the subject. :o Yeah the Supra is fast.. but its not like it took a genius to make a very tuneable engine.. The skyline is soo advanced that it would take you HOURS to learn about all of the features on it and really understand what they do. besides the fact that the Skyline is just as tuneable as the Supra. The skyline doesn't cost $85,000 just because it was made in Japan and is tuneable.. its an incredibly advanced car. BTW.. The Fairlady Z pumps out 1000hp AT EACH WHEEL. Supras cant match that. Fairladys are just extremely underrated. BTW.. DONT ASK ME ABOUT THE FAIRLADY. I talked to the Nissan dealer and they took my friends 300zx back to the factory and spent TONS of money in transforming it to a Fairlady and sold it to some guy in New York for a lot of money.. I dont remeber how much. I think it was some special edition also.. anyway.. the point is the Skyline is a) better than the supra b) maybe not the best car in the world, but extremely close if it isn't.

ok guys.. back to the subject. :o Yeah the Supra is fast.. but its not like it took a genius to make a very tuneable engine.. The skyline is soo advanced that it would take you HOURS to learn about all of the features on it and really understand what they do. besides the fact that the Skyline is just as tuneable as the Supra. The skyline doesn't cost $85,000 just because it was made in Japan and is tuneable.. its an incredibly advanced car. BTW.. The Fairlady Z pumps out 1000hp AT EACH WHEEL. Supras cant match that. Fairladys are just extremely underrated. BTW.. DONT ASK ME ABOUT THE FAIRLADY. I talked to the Nissan dealer and they took my friends 300zx back to the factory and spent TONS of money in transforming it to a Fairlady and sold it to some guy in New York for a lot of money.. I dont remeber how much. I think it was some special edition also.. anyway.. the point is the Skyline is a) better than the supra b) maybe not the best car in the world, but extremely close if it isn't.

The Skyline is WAY over-priced, the Supra TT is better bang for the buck.
Plus IMO the Skyline isn't sexy as all, it is to damn boxy.

Dude, I never said it was a good deal.. even though when you really think about it, its not terrible. and WTF does IMO mean?? Ok, forget about the prices. The skyline is better than the supra. I dont care if it costs more. ITS BETTER!

Dude, I never said it was a good deal.. even though when you really think about it, its not terrible. and WTF does IMO mean?? Ok, forget about the prices. The skyline is better than the supra. I dont care if it costs more. ITS BETTER!

In My Opinion....IMO
And I STILL say the Supra is better, buy a Supra and with the money you save on the Skyline you can make the Supra totally rape it.

yeah true but the sklyine is more exclusive then the already exclusive supra :lol:

Thats the one thing the Skyline has going for it over the Supra is its rare.

Somebody said Supras haven't made 1000hp to the wheels, thats wrong they have.
I think the record on a stock motor is somewhere over 900hp at the wheels.

Thats the one thing the Skyline has going for it over the Supra is its rare.

Somebody said Supras haven't made 1000hp to the wheels, thats wrong they have.
I think the record on a stock motor is somewhere over 900hp at the wheels.

It is 1010 rwhp....with LOTS of work and money lol.

Guys WTF is the Fairlady Z? :?

Guys WTF is the Fairlady Z? :?
It is the Z family of cars: 300zx, 350z etc...

Guys WTF is the Fairlady Z? :?

All the Z cars are called a Fairlady in Japan....
It's gay isn't it lol?

Guys WTF is the Fairlady Z? :?

All the Z cars are called a Fairlady in Japan....
It's gay isn't it lol?
Not to me :!:

well the name dates back to the first Z i think

How is that gay? How is a 3.0 V-6 TT with 4WS stock gay? :?: and thats the American model.. not the japanese. but I mean come on.. 1000hp at each wheel. There is not another car in the world that can do that.

How is that gay? How is a 3.0 V-6 TT with 4WS stock gay? :?: and thats the American model.. not the japanese. but I mean come on.. 1000hp at each wheel. There is not another car in the world that can do that.

What do you mean "at each wheel" you mean at the wheels and pleanty of tuner cars can top that. A dyno measures horsepower at the drivewheels not "one" of them. :roll: If thats even true, seems fishy to me. Unless there running tons of boost for a minute until the thing blows up lol. And the American model doesn't have 4WS thank god. And I am sorry to tell you but a car named Fairlady is a little lady like. I wouldn't want a nice car called a Fairlady, thats why Nissian calls it a Z in other parts of the world besides Japan.

And I am sorry to tell you but a car named Fairlady is a little lady like. I wouldn't want a nice car called a Fairlady, thats why Nissian calls it a Z in other parts of the world besides Japan.
We mostly refer to machines as "she" or "her" :) So I think it fits it just right :D

The Skyline is WAY over-priced, the Supra TT is better bang for the buck.
Plus IMO the Skyline isn't sexy as all, it is to damn boxy.[/quote]

what you said isnt true the skyline is priced to its acomidation, the skyline puts out a fair amout of power at stock and way more at tuned stage the supra on the other hand has alot of power and torque but the handeling and take off isnt that great, overall the skyline and supra are two big competiters but thye skyline will always win

the 300zx does have 4ws like the 240 sx's did. The rear wheels didnt turn very much though.

But arent the fairladys running a 3.0 liter and the 300zx was running a 3.2 or something larger...I forget the exact displacement. Just like the VQ35DE is in the 350z and the current fairlady Z runs a VQ30DE which is also the power plant chosen for the new skyline. I read this somewhere and not sure if my info is totally correct but the next gen skyline wil have a VQ30DETT....smaller but similar to the US version b/c they have a displacment restriction for racing.

actually I just read that it will be a 3.5 liter turbo in the next skyline. Im sure I heard the 3.0 liter thing right its just theres lots of chit chat about whats really gonna happen. There are lots of interesting things going on with nissan but I think they are making two big misakes.
One- the VQ motors have two of everything. The RB's were simple, easy to upgrade and made lots of power. The VQ seem overly complicated and will cost 2x more to upgrade.
Two- They are basing almost every new vehicle off the 350z chassis. The skyline, the altima, the G35, and 350z all look too much alike. This is good for the VQ motor b/c everyone that has one can make their car fast and its in all these cars.

And...IMO the Supra and Skyline are pretty much on par with each other. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.

And...IMO the Supra and Skyline are pretty much on par with each other. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.

Well said, they are both awesome cars. :)