I'm sure many of you have heard about it, the new GT1 that will supposedly beat the veyron. Here are some pics I bet you havn't seen before.

http://www.sportscarforums.com/attachments/6069d1171754329-new_gt1.jpg

Neat isn't it?

http://www.sportscarforums.com/attachments/6070d1171754329-2009-2010-porsche-911-gt1.jpg

Specification

Power: ~ 960bhp
Speed: ~ 254mph


This car is based on the Carrera GT. It will also feature improved aerodynamics, as shown in the pictures above. What are your thoughts?

Holy farg. Where'd you get those pictures? Man, it would be my new favourite car if it was real. It looks amazing. If the P1 grid will be filled with cars like these for 2010, it will be better than Group C.

I googled Porsche GT1, and it came up with these new photos. I've seen them before in a magazine, just that I had no way to really put them on the forum.

judging by the writing on those pic's i'de say they're from Road & Track ,,

this car will be Really be something ,, cant wait ;)

good car...but i hate the look on the back? looks like a box stucked to the rear...soo SH**ty!

*Raises hand* I've seen it before. Its from R&T... i think it was a "Prediction" to what it would look like. If those pictures are as true as i don't want to think they are true... thats horid.

Racing cars for the road don't work. They are for (IMO) people with a whole ton of money who love cars a WHOLE LOT and a collection of 2357819247 cars.
Make a ROAD CAR for the ROAD because you can make it not look so flashy and you can use it for real.

It's to me comparing a Ferrari Enzo to a Maserati MC12. You know they are almost the same. The only difference is the shell, but one is more practical and doesn't look stupid on the road because it is a race car.

Im loving the looks of it, As to whether it makes it off of the drawing board and into production like that is another question though.

Surely a wing of that size at the rear would reduce the top speed significantly?

Looks really nice, it just looks too long in the second picture. With 950 hp I dont think I will conplain too much about the length. That thing probably sounds like a plane.

Im loving the looks of it, As to whether it makes it off of the drawing board and into production like that is another question though.

Surely a wing of that size at the rear would reduce the top speed significantly?

I don't think top speed was the main goal here, it just happens to be really damn fast - 254mph. This car is definitly meant to handle.

2009/2010 Porsche supercar???

Damn, is it just a coincidence that the Chevrolet supercar (aka Corvette SS) will be released at around that time as well??? Or is Porsche just really good at industrial espionage???

Damn this is gonna be good. I'm sure the Prancing Horses and the Raging Bulls are cooking something up as well.

Horsepower war!

That looks so so so so sick! Just look at the lines on that thing!

Looks real great. I bet the rear would look much more better without the bumper. The rear shape is nice though. Smooth and sweet. =)

I think the rear bumper is for aerodynamic purpose.

The engine would be real great.. I'm starting to like this car. :D

If that car ends up weighing around 2900lbs, and has 960bhp, then it has 3 pounds per horsepower, and that's damn fast.

All I see is the Cayman in the rear (except for the aerodynamic parts) with those two big bumps over the wheels. looks great, kinda reminds me of one of those concepts with that roof scoop, that is hopefully functional.

The GT1 looks like a fabulous exotic supercar. I'm glad Porsche ditched the convertible idea it used in the Carrera GT. I hope it makes it to the road.

Still, I don't think the GT1 will beat the Veyron per se. It will be an entirely different type of car. The Veyron is an extremely fast and powerful luxury car. It handles well, considering its weight but no real sports car drags around over 2 tons of baggage.

If the GT1 makes it to production, it will probably be a hard-core racer wannabe with few concessions to luxury. It will have a relatively low curb weight, and exemplary handling. It may have a higher top speed, but that isn't a good way to compare cars. The Brabus S-Class can break 200mph, but it doesn't beat the Z06. They are completely different cars.

Venom, I don't think they will make 960bhp.
If they will, I hope its from a Naturally Aspirated or Supercharged.
3 pounds per horsepower, I think its probably gonna own the Nurburgring.

Firstly, I think it is much uglier than the Veyron.

Secondly, I think it will be turbo-charged because: 1) This is what Porsche are good at, and 2) It is more efficient to use turbo-charging which is why MB are switching to using turbocharging.

car lover !!, why do you hope it is naturally aspirated or supercharged. It would be difficult to get 960 hp from a naturally aspirated engine, and what is wrong with turbocharging.

Turbocharging doesn't sound right to me. The power they get isn't really geniune. Turbo is too common. I want to see a 960bhp Naturally Aspirated I know its hard but I think Porsche could do this.

eww u guys might think that looks good but to me that thing looks UGLY EWW I WOULD NEVER BUY IT.....but thats just me

It is okay if you say its ugly.. because its your taste. Different people have different taste. =)
I'm still gonna have the Carrera GT over this.

It is okay if you say its ugly.. because its your taste. Different people have different taste. =)
I'm still gonna have the Carrera GT over this.
ya thats what i said at the end i said its just me cuz i know some ppl will think that thing is the most beautiful car out there.

oh my god this is looking great, it just looks like hte Mirage GT with the big nice diffuser on the rear, which looks absolutley great, the front looks pretty good, i like it pretty much, still looking like the Carrera GT, the side line looks very good, the top scoop, looks great, i love it, it actually looks great, if it came out, i would defineatly go see how it looks...960hp...wow..

It looks likea Lemans car!!
Nice, rear is a cayman's with huge spoilers and the rest is CGT
IT is interesting to see that supercars are not 4-500 Horsepower...that is not enough anymore!

EVERYTHING ON THIS car is Weird...it's like a counterfeit Carrera GT. The rear of the car is just TOO AWKward and UGLY. Like COMON porsche can do way better in styling... seriously a BOX stuck onto the rear bumper??? thats how it looks like... like comon GEEZ even i can design a better looking car than porsche....!!!

wow, it looks like the Cayman at the back and the CGT at the front

i agree with alot of the people here saying the rear looks like the Cayman....and i really really hate the Cayman, so i guess im not really looking forward to this car...

Well...if it becomes a reality it'll be real good news for me.Since Porsche is one of my all time fav marque.However, fastest or not I'll still regard this car as one of my favourites.

Looks brilliant. Love it. CGT-esque front end, lovely lines and a slippery shapes, and then we come to the end. The wing and the diffuser look pretty good but they'll have to come off it Porsche want 254mph.

Looks lightweight to me. I can see a hell of a lot of carbon fibre around which is definitely good news.

Car lover !!, I reckon this one's gonna be supercharged. The 997 Turbo's got a twin turbo system with an overboost button which practically eliminates lag. I would class it pretty stupid if they weren't going to try this system on this car, because it sounds like a winner.

960bhp sounds brilliant aswell. Can't wait for the torque figures.

Well, hope it will be supercharged instead of turbocharged.
I think it should be generating around 600 - 750lb ft if the power is 960bhp. Too torquey is not good.. =)

Yea.. I'm starting to see a Cayman at the back but will the engine fit at the back first of all? I'm doubting about the rear right now.

That looks good, altough I think the GT1 is a track car and the Veyron is a GT cruiser

It looks likea Lemans car!!
Nice, rear is a cayman's with huge spoilers and the rest is CGT
IT is interesting to see that supercars are not 4-500 Horsepower...that is not enough anymore!


I believe this car will eventually be entered into Le Mans. I read in a magazine that is Porsche's plan.

Though it may sound cool, I think Porsche should really reconsider the design if they wanna' put that thing into production...

The front is good, quite sleek, but as for the back, they've gone into design overdrive. It goes down to far, into a mess of a spoiler.

good car...but i hate the look on the back? looks like a box stucked to the rear...soo SH**ty!Yeah, but it's good for the aerodynamics. That's the craziest rear diffuser I've ever seen. It's gotta be reducing drag with more than 30 percent.... Make that 50. (Base pressure drag usually takes up around 60% of the whole drag of a car, right?)

Sorry Tom K; but the aero kit is terrible.

There is no way that the car in those pictures will do 400+km/h. It'd be lucky to reach 360, BECAUSE OF THE SPOILER. The diffuser looks to be set at too aggresive an angle, so that'd probably create *****loads of drag, the whole thing looks as if it was designed to never go above 250+km/h.

O yea, I remember reading the Road & Track mag in my school and seeing this article in it.

This should be a great successor to the current Carrera GT. Dunno if it will keep the small engine size (like Carrera's GT V10 compared to most supercars using V12's), but it is very exotic and should come out with massive power.

I've seen it:D It probably won't even be street legal anyway even though it looks awesome

looks reaaly good can't wait to see it in action

960bhp? jesus god...

check the petrol cap, theres two just like in some LeMans racers like the M3 GTR

Exactly, this isn't the road version GT1. Single Lug wheels and Racing fuel lines ? And that epic rear diffuser ? That spoiler is too big for 254mph, and we all know it. Most of you just want this car to come out to beat the Veyron anyway.

I think it looks rather good though. For all we know, this could be the sketches Porsche threw together of what the GT was proposed to be for the track, because this car and engine were intentionally going to used for Le Mans racing until the rules were changed, and the engine wasn't eligible anymore, so they put it in a road car.

its just a show car, like the ones at motorshows, most of the cars at motorshow(espically f1 cars) don't have engines, there just sort of a plastic shell

This is what the CGT should have been, it was underpowered

I'm pretty sure the GT1 has been out long before the CGT, as a homologation road version for LeMans labeled 911 GT1 Straßenversion. These look like pictures of it to me.

the pics are Chops only ,, the GT1 road version has been since 1997 and only 20 (not sure ) road cars were made ,, these is one for sale in Auto-Singen in germany ,, hefty price tag

There is just one thing left to be discussed, will be a MR?
I highly doubt that because the so called Cayman rear will not fit the engine (as I mentioned in my post before). =)

These aren't pictures of the 911 GT1, they are apparently pictures of the Carrera GT1. Confusing.

But this isn't realy a relation to the 911 GT1 apart from they are both made to race and go bloody fast.

PancakeBoy, has is this car under powered ? Because I'm sure your moms fiesta has 400 brake don't it.

This is what the CGT should have been, it was underpowered

612 hp? Wow, what have you been driving?:D



There is no way that the car in those pictures will do 400+km/h. It'd be lucky to reach 360, BECAUSE OF THE SPOILER. The diffuser looks to be set at too aggresive an angle, so that'd probably create *****loads of drag, the whole thing looks as if it was designed to never go above 250+km/h.

The Saleen S7 TT has massive amounts of downforce, but it can still do ~ 400km/h. It is possible to have low drag and high downforce.

There is just one thing left to be discussed, will be a MR?
I highly doubt that because the so called Cayman rear will not fit the engine (as I mentioned in my post before). =)

These pics are only chops ,,but most likely any supercar these days is MR so yes this will be MR ,,

Hopefully, the spoiler will prevent it from being the next generation MB CLK-GTR AMG, AKA the flipping car!.....

OMFG, it looks so dam good! I love the overdone aero parts and the gigantic spoiler! And the rear diffuser is big enough for swallowing a person!.....

There is just one thing left to be discussed, will be a MR?
I highly doubt that because the so called Cayman rear will not fit the engine (as I mentioned in my post before). =)There's an engine intake on the roof and radiator intakes on the side. It can only be mid-engined. There's no space for a proper engine in the front either. It would require the driver to be pushed back to nearly inline with the rear axle centerline.

I know those pictures are chops but what if they were real.
Although I don't really understand what Tom K. is trying to say but I think he is right. A 960bhp supercharged engine.. 7.5 liter? I think they will be using V10 engine.

I wonder will they still be using the same rear that the CGT is using.. or the chops' rear. Just wait for more pictures.. they will probably out soon or maybe next year.

This is what the CGT should have been, it was underpowered

yeah, so underpowered that its one of the fastest road cars round the 'ring

that car looks like the cayman and the cgt had sex and the cayman gave birth to it at the top of the ugly tree, letting it get slapped by every branch on the way down. well thats bad parenting, let alone design

gimme a cgt any day. 960hp and i would just end up a smudge on a mountainside.

Dude you rock!!!!!
This pics are ruls and im in shock
What going in porsche offices?
Its B-E-A-Utiful
And if it will beat the Veyron?! O God :|

^It will.. only on tracks. =)
I hope this Carrera GT1 will get to top 260mph but I don't think it will do a 2.5seconds 0-60mph.

when i think of that i might seen this car befor [on pics]
and 960 bhp from naturally aspirated engine sounds crazy
why to do thing like that i dont know but i hope for it to [porsche with this thing can show what they really can do]
and why you sure that its a track car?

o and another thing - its porsche for sure its will look like other models [in this case carrera gt and cayman]

^It will.. only on tracks. =)
I hope this Carrera GT1 will get to top 260mph but I don't think it will do a 2.5seconds 0-60mph.

I think the veyron might even have a tough time in a straight line with this thing......turbo lag :-k ....even the weight of the two. Who knows though, hell of a race.

Damn, this car really owns!!

I can't wait for it.... really.

carFRIEND, what if this GT1 is using turbo too? Who knows.. I hope it won't. I hope it use supercharged instead of turbocharged.

And yea.. it would be a great race if this car comes out. I wish I could get a chance to watch the video of Veyron racing with the Hennessy Viper. That would be hell of a race too. =)

The Saleen S7 TT has massive amounts of downforce, but it can still do ~ 400km/h. It is possible to have low drag and high downforce.

By 'massive amounts', what kind of figure are you talking about, exactly? Also, where exactly did you get 400km/h from? How close is it from 400km/h?

It is very, VERY hard to have low drag and high downforce. Diffusers generally have a good drag penalty for the downforce they give. BUT, the fact of the matter is, a rear wing such as the one demonstrated here will create a lot of drag, with a trade off of a fair bit of downforce. Notice how the S7 TT DOESN'T have a massive rear wing on it such as this one? Notice how the Veyron has a retractable rear wing? Wings = drag. Anything in the airflow = drag.

Hopefully, the spoiler will prevent it from being the next generation MB CLK-GTR AMG, AKA the flipping car!.....


I hope you're talking about the front, because if there isn't an adequate level of front end downforce, that massive rear wing may encourage pitch sensitivity. Although I'm sure they would have taken it into account anyway :p

Porsche SHOULD seriously consider of RE-DESIGNING the rear. Like i've said before it looks really ugly.

Porsche SHOULD seriously consider of RE-DESIGNING the rear. Like i've said before it looks really ugly.

Relax man its only a chop from some magazine ,, Porsche always know what they're doing ,, and hopefully a car with such significance as the GT1 would'nt be something Porsche would want to mess around with :cool:

^^ that is true. The old GT1 (in which i have a model of it) looked pretty decent. Too bad critics say it doesnt feel comfortable (seats).

^^ that is true. The old GT1 (in which i have a model of it) looked pretty decent. Too bad critics say it doesnt feel comfortable (seats).

well, it is a Road version of a Lemans race car ,,so i gueuss , they were right ,, but i havn't seen any magazine or any video testing the car ,, have u got any ?

no. But i read it somewhere on the internet. Just couldnt find the site. If i could i'll post it.

By 'massive amounts', what kind of figure are you talking about, exactly? Also, where exactly did you get 400km/h from? How close is it from 400km/h?

It is very, VERY hard to have low drag and high downforce. Diffusers generally have a good drag penalty for the downforce they give. BUT, the fact of the matter is, a rear wing such as the one demonstrated here will create a lot of drag, with a trade off of a fair bit of downforce. Notice how the S7 TT DOESN'T have a massive rear wing on it such as this one? Notice how the Veyron has a retractable rear wing? Wings = drag. Anything in the airflow = drag.




Havn't you read reviews in magazines about the S7TT? They all put the top speed as 248mph, and they always talk about how much downforce it has, and the ground effects that keep it stuck to the road. The body is just really efficient.

thats wayyyyy old

honestly....I just wanna see it come out. If it does I bet it will sound like an F1 car, handle like one, and even cost the same!!

I think this Porsche will surely be close to the $1 million mark.

whoah!!! what...who...when...omg...i L O V E this car...it looks astonishing...it's just freakin' dangerous just to watch it...as i sad...i love it...i even like the back of it, altough some people don't....it's great...hope it's gonna come out the production line so i can buy one:D:D:P...just kidding, of course

ummm, isn't this thread a bit old?

yea, but its probably my fault, i introduced alex zebe to this thread...

I've seen them before somewhere...

Front looks nice but the rear is damn ugly !!! It still looks better than the Veyron though !!!

ummm, isn't this thread a bit old?

oh i haven't seen how old it was...but still...i hope it's not a problem

Front looks nice but the rear is damn ugly !!! It still looks better than the Veyron though !!!

I know the rear looks ugly in that picture because it was enlarged. It looks much better in the magazine it was taken from.

wow, amazing pics man!!! i remember the 911 supercar, looks very similar to this one, except the body itself is a Porsche Carrera GT...

Good to see that there weren't too many changes, otherwise it wouldnt even look like a Carrera GT supercar... looks awesome.... lol, they've planned this for 2010, that is 3 years away!!! lol.

I loved the original GT1 road car, but this is really awesome too! Its nice to see they more or less kept to the original design. I think the bonnet and roof scoops should be dropped though, and those pics just look like some 3D renders to me, could be done by anyway Porsche fan knowing how to use 3d programs, there are loads of fan made designs all over the net. Would be awesome if I were wrong though and this thing was real.

I can't believe it, this car is amazing, i guess i'm pretty out of date since i just found out!:D Anyways the car just looks so cool, the rims go well with the car, the rear looks a bit ugly but aggressive, and the front is good. I just love the whole body kit!

lol, i guess it's not street legal cuz from its look
GL, GT1

Will it race at Lemans?

I need an official picture of this car.
It is just a concept car..
however, this car looks brutal, cruel and aggressiv.
I dont know whether it can beat Veyron-.-but it is just in another class.
It could be the competitor of Mercedes Benz CLK DTM.
anyway, It would be so hard and difficult to drive this car on normal roads.

I know the rear looks ugly in that picture because it was enlarged. It looks much better in the magazine it was taken from.

i think the back is rather sexy :-k

i think the back is rather sexy :-k

Ditto, I'm loving the back. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but something about it is lovely. Its the front I'm not sure about.

lol, i guess it's not street legal cuz from its look
GL, GT1It will almost surely be street legal.

Will it race at Lemans?
Apparantly it will come out as a road car and then be converted to a lemans racer, like the Mclaren F1 GTR.

I loved the original GT1 road car, but this is really awesome too! Its nice to see they more or less kept to the original design. I think the bonnet and roof scoops should be dropped though, and those pics just look like some 3D renders to me, could be done by anyway Porsche fan knowing how to use 3d programs, there are loads of fan made designs all over the net. Would be awesome if I were wrong though and this thing was real.
I'm pretty sure those pictures were from Porsche.

Ditto, I'm loving the back. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but something about it is lovely. Its the front I'm not sure about.
The back looks cool because they dropped the back way down, stretched it out and put a big wing and diffuser there. It looks like a mutated version of this.

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/carreragt06_12.jpg

http://www.sportscarforums.com/attachments/6069d1171754329-new_gt1.jpg

Why suddenly this thread got revived?
But somehow, I like to discuss about this topic.

Any ideas what are we discussing about?
Why don't we discuss just about the body?

^ two words from your comparison...

'Pure Sex'

damn im good...but it would be very good if it was released tomorrow...lol

It doesn't really look sexy, just those body lines are hot.
They are sharp, they aren't suweet.

Btw, talk about the aerodynamic or whatever it is related.

thats like a sketch, all sketches dont have round ends...:p

beh, aerodynamics, im not sure, but im sure that it will have loads of downforce on the back

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