With the debut of the new Camaro and the Challenger, the Blue Oval is eerily quiet on their part. What engine will it sport? What will it look like? What about future products from the SVT guys?

There is no doubt in my mind that Ford is working overtime to come up with the next generation of Mustangs. And while slow may have some inside info, there seems to be a general hush hush on this subject. And who can blame them?

And as you might expect from my Toyota and the Porsche threads, this will be another creative exercise to let YOU decide what sorts of Mustangs should Ford come out with that can compete with the new generation of pony and muscle cars.

A sample of what the SCF Ford guru has to say:

Your historically excellent Mustangs have always been many of the variants. I truly hope they explore the following.

Boss 302
Mach1
Cobra (not the GT500)
Bullitt

etc.

Each one is a truly unique variant, offering scalability and unique packaging and performance. Each one slides into a unique niche, and because they utilize a common platform, regardless of the model, everyone is familiar with them.

slow, I, as well as many others on here, are very interested in your thoughts about what should happen to the next generation of mustangs. When do you think they should stop making the GT500? How should the new Cobras be built?

i thought they were going to make that guigaro or somthting

IMO I think they should make the next gen Mustang lighter for starters. Make more power out of there engines, and actually upgrade the interior.

What I would love to see a Mustang model with a FRPP 5.0-liter "Cammer" engine, the 4V modular one. I'd also like have a simple interior and exterior, nothing expensive or flashy. I'd like it to come with a beefed up drivetrain and suspension.

-3400 lbs
-FRPP 5.0-liter "Cammer"
-New control arms and brackets
-Trailing arm relocation
-New springs for a hunkered-down stance, reduced body roll, and improved grip.
-9″ rear end

The effect? If I got things right hopefully a car that won't cost much for Ford to make but could put easy an effective 1/4 mile and track car in the hands of just about anyone.

sonicadg, if I'm not mistaken, the Guigaro was just a concept or it is just a Italian Design car.
I'd say the next generation of mustang will have a more futuristic look.
Maybe they will based it on the Guigaro. For the engine, I don't have a good idea.

I'd like to see Ford put some of the most cutting edge performance equipment available on the car. Like the shock absorbers used for the new Audi TT. They were originally designed in the U.S. and it shouldn't be a big deal to get some either.

I would love to see Ford offer the Turbocharged 6 that us Aussies have in the Fords/FPV's over here.

I would buy a 370hp turbocharged mustang on relatively low boost, Particularly seeing as it makes a heck of a lot more torque than the V8 models exlcuding the GT500.

What I would love to see a Mustang model with a FRPP 5.0-liter "Cammer" engine, the 4V modular one. I'd also like have a simple interior and exterior, nothing expensive or flashy. I'd like it to come with a beefed up drivetrain and suspension.

-3400 lbs
-FRPP 5.0-liter "Cammer"
-New control arms and brackets
-Trailing arm relocation
-New springs for a hunkered-down stance, reduced body roll, and improved grip.
-9″ rear end

The effect? If I got things right hopefully a car that won't cost much for Ford to make but could put easy an effective 1/4 mile and track car in the hands of just about anyone.

Based on Fords history, this is the most likely event. Maybe not the Cammer, but another hot engine. Ford has a tendency to make some seriously cool Mustangs that never get noticed, except for by the elite few.

The GTS in 94-95 model years was a hot ride that nobody really took notice of, until well after its debut. A kind of "What the ??" car, if you get my meaning.

I would love to see a Cammer based S197 in base V6 trim with no amenities. With a 3.55 R&P, and the GT500 Transmission. Options should include IRS with urethane bushed mounts, or the solid 8.8. This covers the drag and road race crowd.

More later. Wife, uh, wants to see me.

IMO I think they should make the next gen Mustang lighter for starters. Make more power out of there engines, and actually upgrade the interior. I agree with you on that one....

I think they should stop selling the GT500's about a year after it was first released and stop making them once they are all delivered.
I'm with Joe and Slow on the next range topper having one of the crate engines from Ford Performance Parts or SVT or what ever its called.

The Mustang is not about lavish, luxury, interior appointments. It is about cheap speed in a solid platform. It excells at this. Back in the early 70's they tried this "Luxury" package out on the "Grande" Mustangs. It sucked. People who want to buy a Mustang, especially longtime fans, dont want power crap everywhere, gps navigation, and heated seats. We want light weight, good handling, and of course awesome power. I think the line-up should personally look like this.

Mach 1:
Leather interior
Offered in unique Blue, Red, Yellow, Black or Orange.
Hood and sills topped off with absolutely flat black paint and minor MACH 1 logos.
A functional Shaker hood.
Regular 5 speed transmission
Factory 3:73's
Special edition Mach1 wheels

Cobra
450hp Cammer 5.0 Crate engine
6 Speed
Lowered ride height
Offered in either IRS or Solid axle rear end with three choices of R&P
Leather interior with Snakes embroidered on seat backs
Custom Cobra wheels
Cobra Emblems on either front fender just ahead of doors
Fog lamps in revised front center cowl


BOSS 302
302 Based off of the new BOSS crate block
Stockpile of old Eaton M112's? Use them.
FRPP Z series heads
FRPP X cam
Tremec 3550 Transmission
Complete Dialed in FR500C based suspension
Unique wind tunnel designed front air damn and rear valance
Bare bones interior, the absolute basics, with one exception and thats sport bucket seats up front.
Custom Short throw with choice of pistol grip or T.
FRPP Tach with shift light
Standard upgraded urethane mounted IRS with hardened half-shafts
The widest rim and tire selection for the car.
No A/C

The last one here is a pipe dream, but thats what the Boss was technically all about. It came out sporting a 400hp (WAY underrated at 260) 302 smallblock and was a force to be reckoned with wherever it played, especially on AUTO-X courses. Just a couple of ideas.

BOSS 302
302 Based off of the new BOSS crate block
Stockpile of old Eaton M112's? Use them.
FRPP Z series heads
FRPP X cam
Tremec 3550 Transmission
Complete Dialed in FR500C based suspension
Unique wind tunnel designed front air damn and rear valance
Bare bones interior, the absolute basics, with one exception and thats sport bucket seats up front.
Custom Short throw with choice of pistol grip or T.
FRPP Tach with shift light
Standard upgraded urethane mounted IRS with hardened half-shafts
The widest rim and tire selection for the car.
No A/C

The last one here is a pipe dream, but thats what the Boss was technically all about. It came out sporting a 400hp (WAY underrated at 260) 302 smallblock and was a force to be reckoned with wherever it played, especially on AUTO-X courses. Just a couple of ideas.

http://www.sportscarforums.com/f8/boss-mustang-concept-return-302-a-15393.html

You may remember the thread I made about the return of the 302 in crate engine form, Perhaps they will reveive it as a production line model.

The BOSS engine series is capped by a 500 hp 331 cubic inch engine that showcases the capability of the new block by breathing through all new ported Z-heads.

I like the idea of a 5.4L (331CI) N/A engine pumping out 500hp like the article specifies.




http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k93/drcook193/boss2.jpg


I guess no one liked my idea about the importation of the Barra 4L I6TT that our Fords have over here, It absolutely romps the Boss motor for performance which is the same as that found in the Mustang Cobra R.

too much omney went into the 05's for them to come out with a new gen only three years later, hell, i dunno even know if a three year run COUNTS as a generation.

there wont be a new gen untill at least 2010 (IMO)

BUT that doesnt mean that one of the mustangs very plentiful options wont have a killer package.

BOSS 302
302 Based off of the new BOSS crate block
Stockpile of old Eaton M112's? Use them.
FRPP Z series heads
FRPP X cam
Tremec 3550 Transmission
Complete Dialed in FR500C based suspension
Unique wind tunnel designed front air damn and rear valance
Bare bones interior, the absolute basics, with one exception and thats sport bucket seats up front.
Custom Short throw with choice of pistol grip or T.
FRPP Tach with shift light
Standard upgraded urethane mounted IRS with hardened half-shafts
The widest rim and tire selection for the car.
No A/CIf Ford built this, I would do what it took to get one.

What I would love to see a Mustang model with a FRPP 5.0-liter "Cammer" engine, the 4V modular one. I'd also like have a simple interior and exterior, nothing expensive or flashy. I'd like it to come with a beefed up drivetrain and suspension.

-3400 lbs
-FRPP 5.0-liter "Cammer"
-New control arms and brackets
-Trailing arm relocation
-New springs for a hunkered-down stance, reduced body roll, and improved grip.
-9″ rear end

The effect? If I got things right hopefully a car that won't cost much for Ford to make but could put easy an effective 1/4 mile and track car in the hands of just about anyone.

"Simple" interior and exterior's don't work for muscle cars, look what happened with the Pontiac GTO.

I guess no one liked my idea about the importation of the Barra 4L I6TT that our Fords have over here, It absolutely romps the Boss motor for performance which is the same as that found in the Mustang Cobra R.
I like the idea but it would be hard to fit in the model range. Its near the power and torque levels of the normal GT engine right? If so the price from the dealer would probably be similar and no one would buy it due to the fact that people want a V6 muscle car not an inline 6 turbo.

ok so they gotta move their mindset

GT
comes with either with ford australia inline 6T or a tuned version of the current 4.6 V8.
bargain basement price, by cutting back on lifes luxurys like proper suspension, and steering feedback.
GT500
becomes a euro basher, fights agaist carrera's and vantages, luxuriest, but with awesome power, and proper suspension with magnetic ride control.
302
stripped out with tuned engine options of the GT

left and right hand drive so we can get it in Australia :)!!!

I'm seeing a lot of posts by those who have not a frickin clue what the Mustang is about.

The TT I6, im sure its a great powerplant. Not in a Mustang, Period.

You have to go by packages and realize what particular packages were all about.

Please study, you're going to make the Blue Oval guys at the thought the Mustang could ever have a TT I6.

Oh and Muscle cars DID come with stripped down interiors. In the day of cush riding caddys and lincolns, they were sparse, and thats the point.

Please study up on this. It would be like me not knowing the volution of the M series coupes, and making some wacky, off the wall idea that has nothing to do with the vehicles lineage.

Kthanks

doesnt 'prancing horse' mean Ferrari...? :-k :confused:

doesnt 'prancing horse' mean Ferrari...? :-k :confused:

Yes.

Mustangs don't prance like little girly cars. LOL They stampede.

On a funnier note.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/kellydooo/cobraleaderan2qm5.jpg

^^^^^^
lol you had to get the sly dig in :)

I'm seeing a lot of posts by those who have not a frickin clue what the Mustang is about.

The TT I6, im sure its a great powerplant. Not in a Mustang, Period.

You have to go by packages and realize what particular packages were all about.

Please study, you're going to make the Blue Oval guys at the thought the Mustang could ever have a TT I6.

Oh and Muscle cars DID come with stripped down interiors. In the day of cush riding caddys and lincolns, they were sparse, and thats the point.

Please study up on this. It would be like me not knowing the volution of the M series coupes, and making some wacky, off the wall idea that has nothing to do with the vehicles lineage.

Kthanks

Ok, I have no idea where you came up with anyone talking about putting an Audi TT engine in a 'stang. I was just mentioning that it would be possible to give the mustang a much better suspension. Having a stripped down interior is fine with me just leave out the cheap plastic.

I agree with you on that one....

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I'm tired of seeing cheap plastic trim on the dash board, poor layouts and most of all just a bland interior. Keep it simple and give it some character.

Ok, I have no idea where you came up with anyone talking about putting an Audi TT engine in a 'stang. I was just mentioning that it would be possible to give the mustang a much better suspension. Having a stripped down interior is fine with me just leave out the cheap plastic.



I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I'm tired of seeing cheap plastic trim on the dash board, poor layouts and most of all just a bland interior. Keep it simple and give it some character.

Perception is a wonderful gift. Long before the Audi came along, and specifically when talking about engines, TT means "Twin Turbo".

Just clueing you in. The New Mustang certainly does not have "cheap looking plastic". Good lord.

doesnt 'prancing horse' mean Ferrari...? :-k :confused:A Mustang will be prancing tooif you bury the right pedal alive!

Isn't Ford currently making a 5.4L production engine for the 2009 Mustang, or am confuzzling it with some weird crate engine I've never heard of?

Perception is a wonderful gift. Long before the Audi came along, and specifically when talking about engines, TT means "Twin Turbo".

Just clueing you in. The New Mustang certainly does not have "cheap looking plastic". Good lord.

LMAO. Yeah my fault about the misunderstanding. Anyway I would like to see a version of the magnetic ride damper system specifically built for the Mustang and how it would work on it.

On a funnier note.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/kellydooo/cobraleaderan2qm5.jpgSounds like someone is scared for 2009. Haha, just kidding with you.

What engines do you think Ford could prepare for production by 2009?

Do you think Ford would every release a car that wasn't turn key, meaning with a choice of create engine in the mounted bay but not hooked up? That would be a neat option, just engine, transmission, axle and drive shaft. Leaves all the piping, ignition, etc up the the builder.

On a funnier note (made this myself)...
http://www.sportscarforums.com/gallery/data/500/medium/running_scared.jpg

I'm seeing a lot of posts by those who have not a frickin clue what the Mustang is about.

The TT I6, im sure its a great powerplant. Not in a Mustang, Period.

You have to go by packages and realize what particular packages were all about.

Please study, you're going to make the Blue Oval guys at the thought the Mustang could ever have a TT I6.

Kthanks

Sorry the suggestion of a I6TT was not intended to offend Mustang or blue oval fans, It was merely that...A suggestion.

Many of the V8 enthusiasts of all the old Falcon GT's (our Ford 'hero' car) over here could hardly wait for the new V8 in the FPV GT's (Basically the same engine as the Mustang Cobra R's) and were rudely surprised when the engine was shown up by its little brother the turbo 6 especially for linear torque.

I just figured that it would have a bit of success over in the states as well especially seeing as both countries share a similar enthusiasm for automobiles and share many engines.

Maybe in a separate 'niche' model other than the mustang.