View Full Version : Fastest American Cars According to Forbes
SKR34
Nov 28, 2006, 8:02 PM
http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/22/fastest-cars-american-forbeslife-vehicles-cx_dl_1127speed_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=3 000
The Charger is the eight fastest. WTF? And how come no Shelbys.
nist7
Nov 28, 2006, 9:40 PM
Wow, the fact that they put the SSC Ultimate Aero TT and the Saleen S7 TT in their list at all shows their complete lack of automotive knowledge. Three of the top 5 cars' top speed are based on "estimates." WTF? How does Forbes allow this kind of journalism to occur?
At least they were able to dig up several American sportscar names that I've never heard of, interesting. That's pretty much the only good this article does.
car lover !!
Nov 28, 2006, 9:57 PM
Why is the SSC in ?
Its just a wind tunnel test.. no reality test yet.. I'm happy that the S7TT is there.. I don't know the third car.. but I think it looks great.
slipondajimmy
Nov 28, 2006, 10:09 PM
Why is the SSC in ?
Its just a wind tunnel test.. no reality test yet.. I'm happy that the S7TT is there.. I don't know the third car.. but I think it looks great.
The 3rd car (well the whole company) including all the tooling to build was just recently sold. The company was Evans Automobiles and the car was called the Evans 486. I think I posted pics of it on here some time ago. Also I think the company sold for about $96,000. Company meaning the car and molds/tooling
http://silvaexoticcars.com/images/Evans-486-chassis-top-1024x768.jpg
http://silvaexoticcars.com/images/004side.jpg
gman23rules
Nov 28, 2006, 10:21 PM
i love the fact that the XLR-v is a pic of an Aston, the GT500 is a pic of a BMW and the Jeep SRT-8 is a Ferreri.
SKR34
Nov 28, 2006, 10:23 PM
i love the fact that the XLR-v is a pic of an Aston, the GT500 is a pic of a BMW and the Jeep SRT-8 is a Ferreri.
You probably got it wrong. The slide show after this one has all the cars you mentioned.
n wright 275
Nov 28, 2006, 10:23 PM
that was not accurate at all, the XLR-V is faster than the STS-V and CTS-V.
and where was the Ford GT?
nist7
Nov 28, 2006, 10:30 PM
that was not accurate at all, the XLR-V is faster than the STS-V and CTS-V.
and where was the Ford GT?
HOLY CRAP! How did I miss that? Holy *****!!!!! How in the world did they miss the Ford GT. Wow......I am simply stunned.
SKR34
Nov 28, 2006, 10:36 PM
that was not accurate at all, the XLR-V is faster than the STS-V and CTS-V.
and where was the Ford GT?
I think the XLR-V, STS-V and CTS-V are tied.
alkys40
Nov 28, 2006, 10:53 PM
Can the SSC really do 270 mph !??!
derrm .. then the Bugatti Veyron is nothing in comparison i guess ?!?
SKR34
Nov 28, 2006, 10:58 PM
It's just wind tunnel testing so it really doesn't count.
wanna koenigsegg
Nov 28, 2006, 11:33 PM
To the best of my knowledge the first 3 cars have not been formally tested for top speed.
No Ford GT on that list either, I dont like Forbes.com anymore.
zeyk
Nov 29, 2006, 9:33 AM
some stuff is jus not rite....if a kit car can enter why not the hennessey viper?they do have a manufacturer license.and if estimates count then 250mph hennessey viper also shud be included.
edit: other missing contenders
1998 SVSi Stryker Twin-Turbo Viper
2001 Lingenfelter 427 Corvette Twin-Turbo
1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette
Tom Kristensen
Nov 29, 2006, 9:44 AM
http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/22/fastest-cars-american-forbeslife-vehicles-cx_dl_1127speed_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=3 000
The Charger is the eight fastest. WTF? And how come no Shelbys.Shelbys are slow pieces of crap... but they're cool, and that's the pint.
If only Ford had produced the GR-1, there would have been a Shelby on that list, but people like to be player hating.
obscuur habitus
Nov 29, 2006, 10:55 AM
crappy cars, crappy list.
I don't like companies who just put a big v8 in some lambo lookalike body and say they make a car faster than veyron. esspecially when you look at the fact that it took one of the biggest manifacturers 5 year en millions off euro's to create that.
monkeyfkker
Nov 29, 2006, 11:00 AM
Can the SSC really do 270 mph !??!
derrm .. then the Bugatti Veyron is nothing in comparison i guess ?!?
Yeah, it's 'nothing'... slow pos will ONLY do 253! lol
crappy cars, crappy list.
I don't like companies who just put a big v8 in some lambo lookalike body and say they make a car faster than veyron. esspecially when you look at the fact that it took one of the biggest manifacturers 5 year en millions off euro's to create that.
It's obvious that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. But that's okay, we forgive you... lol
bracketsman
Nov 29, 2006, 11:11 AM
its all well and good that they go fast, but rarely did any want to appear in my dream garage simply cos they aer just not stunning to look at!
1) SCC Ultimate Aero TT. Yeah, looks OK, just too Lambo.
2) Saleen S7 TwinTurbo. I'd have one if it actually could go 260mph.
3) Silva Exotic Cars GT1 and GT3. Not a hope in hell with that styling.
4) Corvette Z06. Definetly is in there...somewhere...
5) Viper SRT-10. For the hell of it...if the exhausts didnt heat up the door sills like Kate Moss' armpit after she sniffed glue.
6) Mullen GT. WTF invented that monstrocity???
7) Panoz Esperante GTLM. Oh...that is just crap!
8) 300C/Charger/Magnum SRT. I'd have all 3!
9) Caddy CTS-V. UGLY
10) Caddy STS-V. UGLY
11) Caddy XLR-V. UGLY
12) Ford Shelby GT500. Now you're talkin!
13) Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT. Now you aren't.
14) I'm glad it stops here.
bracketsman
Nov 29, 2006, 11:12 AM
6 out of 13 made my dream garage, pft
Tom Kristensen
Nov 29, 2006, 12:52 PM
its all well and good that they go fast, but rarely did any want to appear in my dream garage simply cos they aer just not stunning to look at!
1) SCC Ultimate Aero TT. Yeah, looks OK, just too Lambo.
2) Saleen S7 TwinTurbo. I'd have one if it actually could go 260mph.
3) Silva Exotic Cars GT1 and GT3. Not a hope in hell with that styling.
4) Corvette Z06. Definetly is in there...somewhere...
5) Viper SRT-10. For the hell of it...if the exhausts didnt heat up the door sills like Kate Moss' armpit after she sniffed glue.
6) Mullen GT. WTF invented that monstrocity???
7) Panoz Esperante GTLM. Oh...that is just crap!
8) 300C/Charger/Magnum SRT. I'd have all 3!
9) Caddy CTS-V. UGLY
10) Caddy STS-V. UGLY
11) Caddy XLR-V. UGLY
12) Ford Shelby GT500. Now you're talkin!
13) Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT. Now you aren't.
14) I'm glad it stops here.The Silva may look totally sh*t, but there's a function behind the form, so it's all good. It would cheese nearly any other car around a track.
281cobra
Nov 29, 2006, 5:56 PM
Shelbys are slow pieces of crap... but they're cool, and that's the pint.
If only Ford had produced the GR-1, there would have been a Shelby on that list, but people like to be player hating.
The Shelby was tie for tenth with the XLR-V and the STS-V. (top speed)
Please, tell me how Shelbys are slow pieces of crap?
12.2 @ 117mph is faster CTS-V, STS-V, XLR-V and the SRT-8 and the speed limiter can be easily remove. Then the car should top out around 175mph.
monkeyfkker
Nov 29, 2006, 5:58 PM
281cobra... That's just Tom K... don't get all hurt over it.
281cobra
Nov 29, 2006, 6:04 PM
281cobra... That's just Tom K... don't get all hurt over it.
Just the facts man, just the facts. :)
nist7
Nov 29, 2006, 6:07 PM
Let's compile a more accurate top 10 list. Anyone up for the challenge?
Driftster
Nov 29, 2006, 6:14 PM
HAHAAH the CTS-V is faster than the GT500? LOL!!!
what a POS list...
slipondajimmy
Nov 29, 2006, 6:31 PM
The Silva may look totally sh*t, but there's a function behind the form, so it's all good. It would cheese nearly any other car around a track.
Tom Im glad you posted this. This car was designed Long time Kudzu designer Dave Lynn. Its a great car.
I also happen to like the Mullen GT
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Also everyone should read the article and not just look at the pictures...lol. These are Current American Production cars. The GT is no longer in production so its out. Also these numbers were not based on independent testing, but purely manufacturer data. Several of those cars at the 155mph top speed are there because they are electronic limited from the factory, So forbes is basing its top speed out of the factory with no mods.
audi
Dec 01, 2006, 6:15 AM
its kinda funny at first their pretty fast but then it just falls away
Tom Kristensen
Dec 03, 2006, 3:02 PM
The Shelby was tie for tenth with the XLR-V and the STS-V. (top speed)
Please, tell me how Shelbys are slow pieces of crap?
12.2 @ 117mph is faster CTS-V, STS-V, XLR-V and the SRT-8 and the speed limiter can be easily remove. Then the car should top out around 175mph.Well... they aren't slow. But slow is relative term. They are fast as hell consdering the price, but they aren't really fast on twisty tracks... or so I've heard. The Shelby Cobra would beat nearly anything in straight line performance though.
frewin1987
Dec 03, 2006, 6:34 PM
there is a Shelby GT500 there..? i love that car id love one of those.. i seen a Mustang GT in a car park before, that was very nice, but man the GT500 is even nice id so love one of those..
clutch
Dec 03, 2006, 6:57 PM
They are missing 3 of the fastest cars in the industry here, and they all come from the same manufacturer, I speak of course of Superformance.
GT 40
MKIII
Coupe
I am positive that all of these cars can reach past 155 and some I would not doubt can hit 200+ when pushed.
slipondajimmy
Dec 03, 2006, 7:28 PM
They are missing 3 of the fastest cars in the industry here, and they all come from the same manufacturer, I speak of course of Superformance.
GT 40
MKIII
Coupe
I am positive that all of these cars can reach past 155 and some I would not doubt can hit 200+ when pushed.
Not they didnt miss them. Superformance does not make a turnkey car. they make a Turnkey Minus. Then you add the drivetrain of your choice.
Oh and if im not mistaking Superformance builds there cars in South Africa or something then ships them to the USA
And the same factory that builds the Superformance cars builds the Noble cars as well.
bossesjoe
Dec 03, 2006, 8:30 PM
Pah, top speed.
Let's do it drag times.
obscuur habitus
Dec 04, 2006, 6:22 AM
Yeah, it's 'nothing'... slow pos will ONLY do 253! lol
It's obvious that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. But that's okay, we forgive you... lol
the productioncars in the list are ok, but especially the ssc it just a we can do bether than bugatti car, and saleen is doing that to with the TT one. that's the stuf i don't like. the list is crappy because it's bassed on estimates and some cars are missing.
strange btw, that the 10th fastest car does just 155.
looserdude4
Dec 04, 2006, 8:51 AM
Who was the pot head who put jeep on a list of cars?
Tom Kristensen
Dec 04, 2006, 11:28 AM
Who was the pot head who put jeep on a list of cars?It wasn't a pot head. It just proves Enzo Ferrari right.
"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines!"
Jeep managed to make a car with the aerodynamic qualities of a house go almost as fast as a Shelby GT500!
sonicadg
Dec 04, 2006, 12:07 PM
i can't believe thats based on top speeds
so sad
where ths ford gt
and how the hell is a mosler mt900s slower than a Z06 and Doge viper
i actually have seen worse than this
some people said the koenigsegg ccx was the worlds fastest car and it did 260mph
and that the 350z was the highlight of mph 06
lambo or holden
Dec 04, 2006, 2:05 PM
i can't believe thats based on top speeds
so sad
where ths ford gt
and how the hell is a mosler mt900s slower than a Z06 and Doge viper
The Ford GT is on last years list. Its not in production any more. As people have already said. The Mosler would be slower due to its aerodynamic qualities and gearing.
Do people even read threads before they post?
sonicadg
Dec 04, 2006, 3:09 PM
The Ford GT is on last years list. Its not in production any more. As people have already said. The Mosler would be slower due to its aerodynamic qualities and gearing.
Do people even read threads before they post?
ok what the
the mt900s is an enzo beater and ccx rival
the only aerodynamic probelm is the wing lowering top speed
and top speed dosen't even matter
monkeyfkker
Dec 04, 2006, 3:36 PM
Top speed doesn't matter on a list of the fastest cars? How does that work?
sonicadg
Dec 04, 2006, 3:57 PM
depends what fastest means
but a mt900s will beat a viper or corvette any day
so you can't really compare car through top speed
slipondajimmy
Dec 04, 2006, 8:11 PM
WOW. Its amazing that people have selective vision. Let me try this again.
THIS LIST IS BASED ON MANUFACTURE DATA AND NOT INDEPENDANT TESTING. IT IS ALSO AMERICA CARS ONLY. CURRENTLY IN PRODUCTION
v@nQu!$h~$
Dec 05, 2006, 7:22 AM
Pah, top speed.
Let's do it drag times. Hell yeah!!
iamwes
Dec 08, 2006, 8:54 PM
hmm weird i wonder where the ford gt is, it certainly is one of the fastest cars in america
edit: oh sorry just read over the whole thread and figured out why the gt isnt there
OneMike84
Dec 14, 2006, 11:24 PM
I am not completely understanding how the Z06 Vette has a top speed of 198 mph and the GT500, which the same horsepower, has top speed of 155. It looks to be like the GT500 might be limited, but I wonder what the top speed would be if it wasn't limited? Also, why is the vette not limited?
wanna koenigsegg
Dec 14, 2006, 11:27 PM
I am not completely understanding how the Z06 Vette has a top speed of 198 mph and the GT500, which the same horsepower, has top speed of 155. It looks to be like the GT500 might be limited, but I wonder what the top speed would be if it wasn't limited? Also, why is the vette not limited?
Limiters are not mandatory.
The Vette weighs a lot less, Is more aerodynamic and probably has different gear gear ratios to the GT500's.
Its rumoured the GT500 tops out at 180mp/h (290km/h) but that is yet to be proven.
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