View Full Version : What happened to the good cars???
Evo_power
Jul 14, 2003, 12:59 AM
I dont know if there is a MAIN reason behind Japan stopping production on all of its best cars (The Skyline, Supra, and RX-7) Are they just retarded? Or are they building them in secret, and I just dont know about um, or what! Cuz that pisses me off :evil: :evil: :evil: :!:
mallon
Jul 14, 2003, 6:29 AM
well there's a new skyline planned for release in 2005. Mazda now have the RX8; and I heard rumours of a 2004 Supre with a V10 biturbo 600BHP.
Anyway there's alos the Evo/Impreza's/s2000's.
Japan has LOADS of good cars!
jimkk29
Jul 14, 2003, 10:23 AM
Japan has lots of good cars, but they keep getting more and more and more expensive... :cry:
mallon
Jul 14, 2003, 1:00 PM
Well the cost of the base Evo VIII and teh STi both dropped by 2K since the last generation.
jimkk29
Jul 14, 2003, 6:03 PM
Well, here they are getting more expensive, I believe. :cry:
sportmotori
Jul 15, 2003, 11:41 AM
Well, here they are getting more expensive, I believe. :cry:
Its right mate,but they still affordable and cheaper than other cars in the same category.
Like the S2000 there is no other fast and driveable car that is bitter than the S2000 and costs less.
an example the s2000 cost 33000 US $ it comes with leather great looking car wide powerful 240HP I cant find any cheaper roadster that got all S2k features.
McLaren F1 LM
Jul 15, 2003, 11:57 AM
Yea i love the S2000 my friend has it and says it's great aceleration is good and good speed
jimkk29
Jul 15, 2003, 5:23 PM
The S2000 is excellent but its a bit expensive here in Greece... it kosts about 46K euros.
sportmotori
Jul 16, 2003, 8:38 AM
what you will say about Israel,here you can find just thiefs.
here the honda S2000 costs 334000 shekels its 77000 US$ ,you see in israel you will buy an S2000 but with this money you can buy a porsche 911 in the USA.
the BMW Z4 manual trans. costs 85000 US$
the porsche boxster S manual trans. costs 127000 US$
BMW 745 costs biggining from 169000 US$
BMW 760 costs biggining from 242000 US$
Audi TT quattro costs 76500 US$
Audi TT quattro roadster costs 83000 US$
VW GOLF GTI 1.8T costs 42300 US$
fiat PUNTO spice manual costs 20000 US$
Subaru Impreza WRX 2.0T 225HP costs 42000 US$
Subaru Impreza STI 2.0T 265HP costs 58000 US$
the porsche 911 GT3 costs 462000 US$
thats why Israel sucks
I hate Israel every thing is so expensive (cars-houses-food-national Insurance(every one must pay this even if he's not working)and rich peaple dont pay this, this country is so ****ing stuped) thats why Israel Just getting more poor and poverty and poverty and poverty
McLaren F1 LM
Jul 16, 2003, 8:40 AM
The S2000 is excellent but its a bit expensive here in Greece... it kosts about 46K euros.
Oh man :!: :!: Here in canada it cost 35.000.000 dollards canadien :D
jimkk29
Jul 16, 2003, 8:48 AM
Sportmotori, it seems we have the more expensive cars on earth... Our prices here are just slightly lower, but they're still too much.
sportmotori
Jul 16, 2003, 9:17 AM
Sportmotori, it seems we have the more expensive cars on earth... Our prices here are just slightly lower, but they're still too much.
You are wrong mate
here in Israel the cars are much more expensive the S2k costs 67748 euros its much more than 47000 .
believe me when you say jews you see people who love money.
the goverment here want to live from our money, If you will work here that what you'll earn:
811 euros a month and you'll get just 690 from this money
and if you'll find a good job dont be happy cuz if you'll earn 3650 euros a month they will give you just 1930 euros and they will take the 1720 euros
Guys Israel sucks.
jimkk29
Jul 16, 2003, 9:25 AM
LOL ok, I surrender... :P
White-Night
Jul 16, 2003, 9:31 AM
you explained it better than i did :)
the car taxes in israel are 240% ... so make the math :evil: :evil:
Evo_power
Jul 18, 2003, 2:57 AM
Wow, Israel sure does suck
White-Night
Jul 18, 2003, 5:05 AM
tell me about it ..
i can only dream of getting a good car if i live and work in israel ..
or maybe i will become a BankRober or something .... !!
sportmotori
Jul 18, 2003, 5:47 AM
yeah take this for example if you'll find a job with minimum salary
in Israel to buy a new golf GTi with a minimum salary in israel you must work for 4years and 5 months
in the US you must work onl 1year and 7months
by the way min israel the fuel is expensive too we must pay 0.92 euro for a liter
for example to fill my mom Chevrolet malibu 3.1 V6 every week and 2 days we must pay 44.12 euros for 48 liters what do you think,yea yea I know "**** Israel"
White-Night
Jul 18, 2003, 7:44 AM
for example to fill my mom Chevrolet malibu 3.1 V6 every week and 2 days we must pay 44.12 euros for 48 liters what do you think,yea yea I know "[ censored ] Israel
i guess your mom dont really drive alot :)
couse we fill about 40 euros every 3-4 days :roll:
Tenebrarum
Jul 18, 2003, 10:29 AM
well... i remember a few years ago doing a car price compare between the exactly same model, on US & portugal, and they cost less 10.000€ in the U.S.
i don't remember the car very well cus it was over 5 years ago... but if i'm not mistaken it was the BmW 525Tds
The S2000 in portugal costs exactly 44.780 € (i'm with the magazine on the hand :P)
Raith83
Jul 18, 2003, 11:09 AM
Well, you know the GT-R 35 is going to be expensive. And if the Supra does have this V-10, thats going to cost a whole helluva lot too. I can't imagine what those of you who have ludacris car taxes would have to pay. I'd hope thye make a more affordable version of the Supra a as well, something with like a twin turbo I-6 or something.
If its any consolation, I only make 700 US dollars a month(well, I MAKE 1k , taxes blow) and wouldn't be able to buy a new GTi for 3-4 years, seeing as how I'm paying for college and other bills :cry: (Mmmm, now I want one even more, hehe)
sportmotori
Jul 18, 2003, 12:59 PM
lets say in the US you can and its possible for me in Israel working and learning I will buy a GTI Just in my dreams.
Evo_power
Jul 18, 2003, 4:41 PM
Thats why I'm pround to be in the USA, the land of not-suckyness! I dont really like the looks of the new Skyline though :( Its too...I dunno, not cool. And havnt seen the Supra yet, but odds are I wont be able to buy it anyway. Oh well, until then... EVO POWER!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Tenebrarum
Jul 18, 2003, 10:26 PM
that car isn't exactly the R-35(THANK YOU GOD!!!)
that was a prototype but since no costumer seemed to llike it, they are thinking about changing the design... :lol: :lol:
!ARio!
Jul 29, 2003, 10:36 PM
i heard that japan is still making supras, but they are only available in japan...??
sportmotori
Jul 30, 2003, 6:08 PM
i heard that japan is still making supras, but they are only available in japan...??
U know I heard of that too.
In japan they got a lot of cars just for theme self,like the toyota yaris turbo.
RiceBoy
Jul 30, 2003, 9:32 PM
By the way, the R35 Concept was based on the Q45 luxury sedan (Damn.....)
Anywayz, yes, the Japs are pretty selfish.They never gave the U.S. the Type R, SiR, GTR, Silvia, and the list goes on and on.
I so wish we still would have the Supra selling in the states.....
The U.S. Supra got wiped off the face of the U.S. when all these stupid drivers (I'm not dissing myself, cuz I'm only 13 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ) stopped buying it. And eventually, they stopped producing it in the states :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
biguk15
Jul 31, 2003, 5:47 AM
hiya ppl
i do agree that the nissan skyline r34 ....... is one of the best cars in the world, for tuning.
it does look great and perform equally as great, but i stick to my country. i believe that a car like the Jaguar e-type is one of the best cars in the world. also I own a 5.3 v12 e-type.
I also think that a car like the classic mini is the best in the world. Which car can boast production throughout 5 decades, with minor modifications through each model.......................none, absaloubtly none.
Any one else a fan of jaguars or minis? then add me to your msn messenger list, and we can chat on messenger.
thanks for your time to read my message.
Evo_power
Aug 03, 2003, 1:20 AM
Well, the Thunderbird was made in the 50's, its had 6 decades, The Corvette started production in the 60's, its still here, the Mustang also has 5 decades behind it. Coarse they've all been changed quite a lot, but its not like the Mini is the longest lasting car.
RiceBoy
Aug 03, 2003, 10:46 PM
He means being produced for 50 years without redesigning the mofo. 8)
Raith83
Aug 04, 2003, 1:21 AM
Hehe, mofo........Anyway, yeah, the Mini never saw a bad day either, the others you mentioned had some pretty craptastic randitions. Just though I'd point that out. (Rally + Mini = Mini killing everyone!)
I believe the US is the main consumer of Japanese made cars. We have some strict emissions testing here as well as CARB, which pretty much dictates the standards for the rest of the US. Japan probably wants to keep all their cars marketable in the US, which is why they stopped production of some of their more powerful cars. More power usually means more exhaust. Not only this, but for a time the common consumer was in search for a car that would last longer with good gas mileage that could be easily serviced. They did not care for supercars. Now with the release of movies such as The Fast and the Furious and Gone in 60 Seconds more people seem to be in search of more power. Demand has to meet the supply or there will be a surplus, stuff that won't be sold. Car companies are out to make a profit so they have to make their cars appeal to the average consumer.
jimkk29
Aug 07, 2003, 3:48 PM
Very correct.
Raith83
Aug 08, 2003, 7:01 PM
I'd just like to point out tha the US is the biggest cosnumer of EVERYTHING so that doesn't say much..."The US is the biggest consumer of Japanese exports" or whatever :roll:
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