Hello,
I think this is a hard cookie. Both cars have 240hp, both are japannese makes and both cost about the same. I dont know the exact acceleration ( 0-62 mph ) and the max speed. If anyone has any clues which car is better u may speak now :D or forever hold.... :lol:

I reckon the S2000 would come out on top, its faster to 60, probably has a a slightly better chassis and I think Honda have a better heritage when it comes to sharp handling sports cars. :)

Wishbone

I think that only time will tell, cause we need to see if the new Wankel will be as revolutionary as the people of Mazda say. And this will take time.

:roll:

when it comes to sports car, acceleration, handling, and brakes.......

SUBARU rules...............

but anyway, i still thinks rx-8 is better than honda......

nah it has to be the S2000
despite its age, as wishbone said, Honda have a better hertitage

S2000, no doubt about it....better performance car

heritage means ****, u guys no **** all.

anywayz there totally different cars, ones a rotary ones a piston, y not compare a VW beetle witha supra? :roll:

is the mazda only 1.3. mazda has killer looks and you wit ur subaru der only a piece of **** and a lancer evo would **** dem for breakfast

True true.
It would be nice to see both the Impreza and the lancer in action but i think Lancer is much better car alltogether. Thats just my opinion. :?

Firsts off, the mazda has a 1.3 liter engine so it gets off the line a lot slower, so it gets its a** kicked in the 0-60. Second, getting 250 horsepower out of a 1.3 liter engine puts a lot of pressure on the engine so after 1 1/2 to 2 years the engine is done, it will need to be rebuilt or replaced, but like i said there both shi**y asian cars, and American cars will always rock them.

by the way a 1.3 litre rotary is more like a 3 litre 3.5 litre piston engine, dunnno where u tryin to pull these 'facts'

i really think u gotta know what u talkin bout b4 sendin in the msg!

The RX-8 isn't that good, no turbo like the prior FD3S RX-7. Plus, the Honda absolutely flies on the track with the VTEC. And it's a drop-top.

getting 250 horsepower out of a 1.3 liter engine puts a lot of pressure on the engine so after 1 1/2 to 2 years the engine is done, it will need to be rebuilt or replaced

just in case anyone reads that it isnt true!
maybe if it was a piston engine it might put strain but being rotary certainly not.

i have had hondas all my life.
whoever said honda has greater race heritage is incorrect.
mazda is the only japanese manufacturer to win the 24 hour of lemans
many people in scca rally have the older mazda rx's and the 323.
the rx8 is better than the old rx7 because...
well besides the renesis engine a non turbo car has much greater throttle response.
mclaren f1 streetcar is naturally aspirated. so are fi cars.

if i had the money it would be a tossup between the s2000, rx-8 and nissan 350z

for rallying no doubt mitsu or scooby but for track and street rear wheelers rule

regards,
m.a.d.

...the 350z , now there's something shaping up to be a great car

im in the UK and they'll be £27 but in US they're to be sold from $25 30% cheaper :evil:

however the best thiong for the track under £30 gotta be the Caterham R400 if any of you guys are familiar with it.

two of them have vey unique engine,wit na tuning which can produce such output with just small capacity like the renesis rotary engine,two of the engines have very high capability.revvy,power and smoothness, its all boy racers favourite...

Hey ***git, 1.3 liters means 1.3 liters, theres no of that if it was a V-engine it would be 3.0 liters. cause if it was then the displacement would say 3000cc dumb****.

i dont know who you re talking to nor do I know what you've just said, but there's no need for talk like that on the forum...

The Honda have a Huge Tunning ability......
there are lots of tunning for honda and it have awell known engine ...
while the mazna have a new engine ... with a new technology .....the technology came from BMW .... but BMW didnt use it yet ...
new engines are hard for tunning couse few know how they may react to the tunning and much fewer know how to tune it.....i guess no body know how to tune this mazda from the engine .... around it some do know ...

the advantage of the honda is the tunning ... at least in my point of view !!
the advantage of the mazda is the new engine .... but no body still knows if this technology is reliable or not ...

I own a '87 RX-7 and it's also 1.3L, not quite 250 hp though, only 182, with 91k miles on it and still runs like new. Rotary's are meant to be driven not pampered, if you don't over heat them they'll run at redline forever. I'd have to say though that I'd go with the S2000. There are a ton more aftermarket parts that can be put on the S2000 compared to the RX-8 plus I don't like the looks of the RX-8 looks ugly and has 3 doors and 4 seats (who wants 4 seats?) plus the S2000 is a drop top that's got to be worth something. I'm hoping that the RX-8 does well so Mazda releases another RX-7 (a true sports car) in 2006.

What nobody mentioned yet, is that the S2000 is considered to have the best atmospheric engine in the world. Proved and approved by the best.

The Mazda, on the other side, has the Renesis engine, the 1.3 Liter Water Cooled Two-Rotor Engine which enables a more consistant line of torque throughout the RPM. So you can predict a little more torque available right from low revs.

By the way C0B0, the RX-8 has 250 HP! :)

but u didn't say whats better in ur opinion ...
and why !?
the difrance between engines are known ....at least for me (but its a good thing u mentioned them thx) but the question of the topic was lost....
i guess i would take the honda couse its more tunnable :) and the engine is reliable and its better looking :wink:

You think the question of the topic was lost?
For me the topic is still what it was from the beginning, Honda S2000 vs Mazda RX-8 (the one that C0B0 posted :)) right? Otherwise i wouldn´t even put myself to compare both engines.

And yes, i didn´t say which was better in my opinion at the time, because one thing is to prefer and the other is to avaliate the car, drive it and then choose between them based on your driving experience with each one. I didn´t even drive nor the S2000 nor the RX-8! Now, how can i make a stand? :!:

Anyways, i would go for the S2000 :D (and don´t give me the "heritage" crap)

as the poll on rsportscars.com suggests... people dont seem to like the RX8 all that much, in comparision to the RX7 and stuff...
The RX8 has big shoes to fill; i suppose in time we'll see which is better.
I voted that the RX8 will nmot be as big BTW

and don´t give me the "heritage" crap !!!
dont understand what was that all about...

but anyways ... i didnt mean anything here .... u just didnt give ur opinion,
r u gonna tell me u dont give ur opinion till u drive the car urself.......

ok great .... good luck then hopfully u can compare a Mclaren or a Ferrari once in ur life ..
no hard feelings but were are comparing by numbers and information we know about the cars ... thats alll ....

i guess non of the guys in this forum have ever drove a Mclaren so why do they compare it anywasy....
its makes no sence...

no heart feelings ... this is what i think :wink:

Both are excellent cars... I would have a very difficult time choosing. I think I would pick the RX8 because roadsters are not my favourite type of cars.

The S2000 is great but not for daily use ,
couse all the fun and power om the car is in real hight RPM ..
and you usually get there when your racing and making crazy stuff in the car .. :)
but for guys who like to drive always as a race its grat :)

The S2000 is great but not for daily use ,

why not? Its a Honda not a Lambo!?!?

the engine speed must be high to get most of the power (high RPM )
so manly its not really fun driving this car daily !
(at least thats what they said in top gears testing about the car :)

white you're taking what i said in another post and exagerating it!!

Its only another few 1000 revs. And thats when you are racing when you take all revs before you change up - its max power range is at the 'normal' range. For daily use it is a good car, assuming you dont race to work at over 120mph.

i wans't but i just saw the Top gear test ,
and thats what they said ...
by the way 9000 RPM is much higher than 6000 ... its more than 1000 ..
but it depends one which car you compare it ...

anyways chill out man ! :wink:

I said a few 1000 white!

ANyway - I know people who have had 3 S2000's, one after the other, and they use it as an everyday car. It wasnt designed to be a full on sports car - buut a comprimise between comfort and performance. Something I think I does rather well.

it seems i need to sleep more than 3 hours a day i guess :)
sorry mallon i guess i didnt read your post that well sorry :oops:

What kind of car do you drive?....are you even qualified to make a suggestion like that?!!! you suck and your car :evil: :twisted: :roll:

HA ??
what kinda of a post is that ?
i dont see any suggestions here... and what does anybodys car have to do with it ?

Preston, You don't go hunting for deer with a paintball gun. Come back later

yo guys wats with all the cruel comments and all..
S2000 = FR, piston engine, NA
RX 8 = FR, rotary, choice of NA and turbo

theres no perfect car guys..compare both and we have one with a good engine response and one with hard handling..

no point i-VTECs vs. Renesis Rotary..dont just step on the gas and shift gears..try them out in corners and realibility..that's the way to compare..

mazda rx 8 RULEZ!!!!
unfortunately here in italy we can't drive this car cuz they didn't import her!
ns2000 is a very good car but i prefer rx8!
BYEZ!

The RX8 is more fun to drive which is the point. And with the S2000 just driving like a Honda, the choice is clear. Try sitting behind the wheel, and you will see how much better the RX8 is.
THE EVO ON THE OTHER-HAND WHIPS THE WRETCHED
CRAP OUT OF BOTH CARS!!!

yes it does but that isnt being discussed here!

Id still have the S2000. Ive sat and drove in them a few times and they're an impressive car. Plus I always liked honda's more than Mazda.

Some times people are really stupid.

"Oh I like this car, and the other one isn't too bad but THE LANCER OWNS EM BOTH!!! LMFAO ROFLMAYONAISE!!!!!111"

Whats the point.........

s2000 would win

Looking at comments from japanese video "best motoring" and RX-8's owner at japan, it seems like RX-8 is not a good sports car. Some say RX-8 is not even a sports car but S2000 is difinetly a sports car. They said that RX-8 don't have very good acceleration and said that it does roll. I wonder if changing the suspention of RX-8 will imporve its stability and will be compariable to S2000. In video RX-8 was beaten by S2000 and even Integra Type-R (in straight!)...

Yeah I don't think that the RX-8 serves as a sportscar... It's more like a fun to drive coupe, like the kind of car to get your girlfriend out for a ride. :wink:

in my opinion the rx-8 is build by using the latest technology. the design is superb when u look into it and the designlooks like concept car and it has it own class. it has the rotary engine produce 280hp so i think this babe is surely a powerful model which can challenge the other japanese sports car.the price is selling lesser than an Evo 8 as well.so i think it is an affordable and fun to drive car.

I dont know how you can say the RX8 isnt a sportscar!
Its NA and produces similar HP to the RX7 - and it sure as hell is a sportscar.

It looks like a sportscar, drives like a sportscar performs like a sports car - dont really kno where you're coming from when you say that.

In terms of track times I think that the S2000 would generally beat the RX-8.
Anyway don't get me wrong, I love the RX8, perhaps even more than the S2000. :D
BTW, what is "NA"?

Natural Aspiration

- no turbos or superchargers.

No doubt RX-8 is a sportcar. With peak rpm of 9000 rotary engine what else it can be?
If its not a sportscar we would not be comparing with S2000.

In car magazines in japan it says that S2000 is faster, but to experience its speed, you must be in enviroment where you can rotate its engine at least 4000rpm. Once you reach over that it has a enormous acceleration. Comparing to that, RX-8 has a flat torque so it accelerate abou equaly at every rpm.

In S2000 it has a more sharp handling and RX-8 has a sharp handling (not much as of S2000) and control.

Also, since S2000 was only designed to drive fast, in other hand RX-8 was designed as "sportscar that 4 adult can get in easily" and "sportscar that can be used as daily car "which for other sportscar this is very hard to do.

Choose S2000 if you want speed only.
Choose RX-8 if you want sportscar that is fairly fast and that can be used daily.

Thanks Mallon.

Yeah Bitz is right, that's what I was trying to say.

I bought and saw bestmotoring video and was disappointing to the see the performance of RX-8. It did have a fast cornering speed but once it gets to straight, S2000, Skyline Coupe, Integra Type-R, and 330i easily passed RX-8. In video they said that this was from lack of torque and probably gear ratio. Also S2000 in japan has 10 more horsepower and more torque. Probably this much difference will not change but i hope it would so RX-8 will be faster than S2000 in U.S. So far as long as seeing that video, right now S2000 is faster than RX-8 which means as long as we were considering which car is better by its speed, S2000 is definitely the better car.

But there is some doubt also... Looking at their specs, I personaly can't believe that RX-8 can't keep up with those rivals. Maybe it wil not be fastest but at least it should be in very good competitive postion.

I have a good news for those who are in drepression because of RX-8 not keeping up with those rivals. In bestmotoring, RX-8's best lap time was 1min:11sec:XX, and S2000s time was 1min:08sec:XX. But in other article, RX-8 scored 1min:09sec:XX in same track as the one used in bestmotoring. This is little slower than S2000 but its close enough.

honda of course,for me it look better its more pure sports car,its convertible,sounds great,and its a honda,period.

I'd pick the S2000 in a heart beat. Mazda doesn't have the backbone for racing, and The S2000 looks more like a racing car.

Seeing as you must be new to forums.. it's not a good idea to bring back old threads like this one.