What do you think about electricly driven superchargers (those which are not driven by the camshaft but have electric engine of their own). I have seen one of those on ebay for a bit more then 100 bucks, but it looked like crap and author was saying that it gives performance of up ro 10%?
What are your opinions?

If its electric driven, its not really a supercharger and I would stay away.

yeah that's what i thought, but even so it is quite a nice thing i guess... It gives you the opportunity to turn it on whenever you want, and even 10% is quite nice in comparison to other things you can do for 150 $ to make your car go nicer...hmmm

If its electric driven, its not really a supercharger and I would stay away.Me too, and just for a $100 :shock: I wonder how much boost you can get from something like that.

Electric turbos are snake oil......

If its electric driven, its not really a supercharger and I would stay away.

its still a supercharger though... maybe piss poor but, a supercharger doesnt have to be driven my camshaft. (remember a turbocharger is a type of supercharger and it isnt driven by cam)

If its electric driven, its not really a supercharger and I would stay away.

its still a supercharger though... maybe piss poor but, a supercharger doesnt have to be driven my camshaft. (remember a turbocharger is a type of supercharger and it isnt driven by cam)


UMM----NO!

A supercharger is a belt driven turbo..... where is the belt on an electric turbo????
A turbo charger is driven by your exhause gasses.

Do you know what your talking about?

I read somewhere that the turbocharger of the new EVO 9 (not sure) will have a nice system: a small electric motor will be spinning up the turbocharger at low revs and when you release the gas pedal, so boost will be available under all conditions with absolutely NO lag!! :shock:

What is the difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger on a car's engine? (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm)

If its electric driven, its not really a supercharger and I would stay away.

its still a supercharger though... maybe piss poor but, a supercharger doesnt have to be driven my camshaft. (remember a turbocharger is a type of supercharger and it isnt driven by cam)


UMM----NO!

A supercharger is a belt driven turbo..... where is the belt on an electric turbo????
A turbo charger is driven by your exhause gasses.

Do you know what your talking about?


Nope,
A supercharger is defined as something that compresses the air that is going into engine - regardless of source of power needed to do this.
And technically speaking a turbocharger IS a type of supercharger. And so therefore is a divice that gets its power electrically.

If its electric driven, its not really a supercharger and I would stay away.

its still a supercharger though... maybe piss poor but, a supercharger doesnt have to be driven my camshaft. (remember a turbocharger is a type of supercharger and it isnt driven by cam)


UMM----NO!

A supercharger is a belt driven turbo..... where is the belt on an electric turbo????
A turbo charger is driven by your exhause gasses.

Do you know what your talking about?


Nope,
A supercharger is defined as something that compresses the air that is going into engine - regardless of source of power needed to do this.
And technically speaking a turbocharger IS a type of supercharger. And so therefore is a divice that gets its power electrically.

Dude, you ass backwards.........
A turbo is any device that compresses the air....ect
A turbo"charger", is an EXHAUST driven compressor.
A Supercharger is a BELT driven compressor.
A electric turbo would fall in it's own catagory.

How old are you?
Do you own a car with a turbo? cause I do.

Im 19 - I have a turbo car - a Golf IV PD TDi.

Im not arguing my point any more - Read my previous point, i know im right - technically speaking a turbocharger is a supercharger.

technically speaking a turbocharger is a supercharger.

You have just proved to me you should not be a moderator. :roll:

technically speaking a turbocharger is a supercharger.You have just proved to me you should not be a moderator. :roll:Hahahahahah, why :lol:

This is off a credible site(as a matter of fact w-body.com won the car site award):
Overview
Short of swapping in a new engine, the greatest increase in performance you can possibly get would be to go to forced induction. The amount of power that an engine can produce is limited by the amount of air and fuel that can be drawn into the cylinders. Air at atmospheric pressure flows through the intake manifold to fill the vacuum created when the intake valve opens and a piston descends in a cylinder. Forced induction is using a turbocharger or supercharger to force air into the cylinders at greater than atmospheric pressure.

A supercharger is a belt-driven pump that forces more air into the cylinders which raises the effective compression ratio of an engine, which increases its power output.

A turbocharger is an exhaust-driven supercharger. A small turbine wheel is mounted in the exhaust system, where the high-speed flow of exhaust gases cause it to spin rapidly. This exhaust turbine drives a shaft that is connected to another wheel in the intake manifold called a compressor. The compressor forces the air into the cylinders. The faster the engine runs, the greater the flow of exhaust gases, and the faster the turbine spins-which in turn causes the engine to run faster still. To prevent this chain reaction from getting out of hand, a safety valve called a wastegate diverts exhaust gases around the turbine when pressure in the intake manifold exceeds a preset level.

A turbocharger is more efficient than a belt- or chain-driven supercharger because no power is required from the crankshaft to run the pump. The turbine wheel is driven by exhaust heat and pressure, which normally go to waste.

On the other hand, a supercharger can provide more low-end torque, because it is running even at idle. A turbocharger can suffer turbo lag which occurs when the engine has not reached a speed high enough to drive the turbocharger fast enough to generate sufficient boost. A larger turbo has a longer turbo lag where the effects of the turbo may not be felt until around 2500rpm. A smaller turbo will spool up more quickly, allowing for less turbo lag, however, a smaller turbo may not hold up as well as a larger turbo at high boost levels. Since turbochargers are more efficient, a turbo can potentially supply more boost than a supercharger.

I just had to post this in case there was any doubt........

Im 19 - I have a turbo car - a Golf IV PD TDi.
I thought you had an Audi A4. :?

Im 19 - I have a turbo car - a Golf IV PD TDi.
I thought you had an Audi A4. :?

nope thats my dad's car. I ve only ever had a clio and now a golf :D

intlcutlass i didnt even read what you have posted. By habit (bad habit) people refer to super and turbo differently.
Just accept that, speaking completely accurately, a turbo is a type of supercharger.


You have just proved to me you should not be a moderator.

less of the sarcy coments - argue all you like, i know im right. :P

A turbocharger is an exhaust-driven supercharger.I think that proves it :)

A turbocharger is an exhaust-driven supercharger.I think that proves it :)

Actually , I didn't write that..... thats off a site that attepmts to explain the differences...

I never noticed that mistake before.......good eyes.....

A turbocharger is an exhaust-driven supercharger.I think that proves it :)

and i rest my case :D

A turbocharger is an exhaust-driven supercharger.I think that proves it :)

Actually , I didn't write that..... thats off a site that attepmts to explain the differences...Oh yeah :lol:
I edited it :)

You know what.... It's obvious we all know what a turbocharger and a supercharger is..... and I was just on the "turbo calculator" site (link to follow)....

And Mallon was right.....it says in black and white that a turbocharger is a type of supercharger......

In reality, turbochargers are superchargers which are driven by engine exhaust. Typically, however, when one refers to a supercharger

http://www.turbocalculator.com/turbocharger-supercharger.html


So mallon , here is my "I'm Sorry" :oops: ...... You were right and I was wrong........you gain that much more respect from me.......

ok, here's the DL on those electric superchargers, they're not for cars, they're actually for marine engines and if u happen to buy one and actually put it on your car it will, in fact restrict the airflow a bit. So, as I'm sure you all heard b4, if it's too good to be tru it probbably iz lol.

actually there is one that works. we manufacture it. you can see it @ www.kid's, its spam!.com (http://www.spam spspam spam spam.com) '' in spam products ''

Reminds me of the old Lucas saftey addvice. Get home before night. I'm guessing that thing would need magnetos hanging of everything that spins.

THATS GOOD turbo lag caused me to crash me first car (audi allroad)

Too old and exhausted. Topic locked.