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CarRocker
Mar 02, 2004, 8:21 AM
I know you guys are talking about it since the new 5serie was there. And finally here it is
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/4270.jpg
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http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/4269.jpg
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/4273.jpg
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http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/4274.jpg
Some specs:
V10 with ~500HP and a minimum torque of 500Nm
0-100: ~5sec
0-200: ~13sec
Tyres Front: 285/35 ZR 19
Tyres Back: 255/40 ZR 19
Produced in: Dingolfing( :? )
Productionstart: Probably this year.
And i must say i love it
Rouin
Mar 02, 2004, 8:30 AM
V10 yikes. what a beast.
jimkk29
Mar 02, 2004, 10:25 AM
I loooooove it too, this car is gonna rock the world. :shock:
If I had the money, I would give it instantly for this baby.
BluCamSS
Mar 02, 2004, 12:17 PM
Pretty nice, I just hope that V10 sounds better then a Vipers.
Raith83
Mar 02, 2004, 12:54 PM
that's a down right, sexy beast of a car. I don't care what other people think, the new styling is a good thing. V-10 sounds about right for an M5 too :-D
Wow, I can't think of any competition for this car.
mallon
Mar 02, 2004, 5:17 PM
that is nice!
the previous one was amazing, but now there's another 100BHP.
The m5 is the only one in tthe series i like. I really cannot stand the non-m5 5 series-es
I think the front spoiler really ties the front up and makes it look a little less strange.
dark_hunter
Mar 02, 2004, 5:20 PM
Great car, but I'm afraid to ask the price :oops:
jimkk29
Mar 02, 2004, 5:27 PM
LOL, me too! Because I already know it's sth I can never afford. :cry:
igaboj
Mar 02, 2004, 6:58 PM
:shock: :shock:
WOW! but now that's it's a V10 the price goes WAY UP; i never really thought of owning (more like dream) an M5, but now.. it just moves further and further away :cry:
x-man
Mar 02, 2004, 7:48 PM
Very well done BMW ! V10, 500 HP, 490 pound feet of tourqe. That spells desaster
for some super cars, not only will the engine sound better than the " VIPER" like
blucamSS said, it will probebly distroy a " VIPER".
Cant wait till its out.
BluCamSS
Mar 02, 2004, 9:54 PM
it will probebly distroy a " VIPER".
Cant wait till its out.
I SERIOUSLY doubt that.
igaboj
Mar 03, 2004, 1:51 AM
well, for one, the viper has 8.3 liters of displacement, which BMW will probably never make an engine that size in a V10, so the viper engine is a whole lot larger w/ more power at lower RPM and all; and even though the viper is fairly heavy, the BMW will in no way be close to the weight of the viper, at least 800 lbs more.. (maybe 400 kg? :? )
!ChEeKy GiRl!
Mar 03, 2004, 4:01 PM
BMW'S R BETTER DAN DA REST U GET ME????
dark_hunter
Mar 03, 2004, 5:07 PM
BMW'S R BETTER DAN DA REST U GET ME????No. Can you tell us why :?:
jimkk29
Mar 03, 2004, 5:49 PM
Guys please avoid getting off topic, comparing a Viper to the M5 is not the point here... It's a bit stupid too.
Thlam
Mar 04, 2004, 6:45 PM
its got a nice engine with lots of performance but its really ugly, somebody needs to shoot Chris bangle for runing BMW and their formerly beautiful cars
Evo Rob
Mar 04, 2004, 7:31 PM
WOW 8) some thing else i can look forward to seeing the back of on the Auto Bahn :(
igaboj
Mar 05, 2004, 2:21 AM
its got a nice engine with lots of performance but its really ugly, somebody needs to shoot Chris bangle for runing BMW and their formerly beautiful cars
wonder what he might do to M3, maybe it might look like a 6-series :? :x
Rouin
Mar 05, 2004, 2:25 AM
BMW'S R BETTER DAN DA REST U GET ME????
has this board turned into supercars.net? i look at the boards on that site and cringe at posts like this. please, press caps lock for me. please use "th" instead of "d". i understand if you want to rant about how u love a certain car manufacturer, i do the same, but make it coherent and un-supercars.net-like.
by the way. do teams race M5's??
jimkk29
Mar 05, 2004, 9:02 AM
by the way. do teams race M5's??
I don't think so... they prefer the M3 which is much lighter and smaller.
CarRocker
Mar 05, 2004, 11:28 AM
If you look to the FIA ETCC, they BMW's are all M3's. And as far as i know they don't drive M5's
!ChEeKy GiRl!
Mar 07, 2004, 11:43 AM
bmw's av alsways been my fav cars n they get the right balance of speed, practicality, reliability and safety. they r gd cars.
Attaus
Mar 09, 2004, 10:09 PM
I am an M-Series FANATIC! I absolutely love them. Its really a shame that the M5 is altering their V8 roots and going with a V10. This will make the M5 more powerful, always a plus, but more expensive, and more costly to fuel. I really like the new styling, but it was really inevitable when they were going to do it. The M5 has always looked like the 5 series so when they change the styling, the M5 will follow. Yes they look similar, but there is something about the M-Series that you can detect it from the 5 series. I think the new styling is an upgrade, but the V10 is a downgrade. There has always been enough power, just not the right styling to support it.
jimkk29
Mar 10, 2004, 7:34 PM
I definitely favour the choice of a V10 by BMW. No matter the styling (which btw is just what is needed IMO), I'd like the M5 to have a screaming V10 built by the best engine maker worldwide. :wink:
The V10 is supposed to be modeled somewhat after the V10 used in BMW's F1 car. I think a few of you think this engine will weigh the car down more or maybe you're just loyalist to tradition. I think the engine upgrade will be pretty much negated by any of the new creature comforts that BMW decides should be offered in their new 5's. Think about how quick and nimble the Maybach's are despite weighing in at over 6000lbs. It's because of their V12s that they're able to outperform and outhandle even a corvette (not a Z06 mind you). I think the V10, although a divergence from tradition, will give the M5 a notable edge over the other luxury sport sedans out there.
kelvin
Mar 11, 2004, 6:15 AM
Nice looking car....how much does it cost? 40-50k pound or more?
btw,who would race a luxury sedan with a super sports car? :?:
It's not that you would ever try to race a sports car with the luxury sedan. It's the fact that you know you could if you wanted to. Most rich people with nice luxury sedans or super sports cars never will race their cars, but they are satisfied knowing that they could if they ever wanted to.
jimkk29
Mar 11, 2004, 6:11 PM
HAHA LOL, nice train of thought! :lol:
But you're probably right. :wink:
NiGiz
Mar 24, 2004, 5:37 PM
BMW M Power!
Nothing more, nothing less...
Attaus
Mar 24, 2004, 8:35 PM
Yeah, I mean it had PLENTY of power before, its not like the car will be used regularly at the track. I knew someone with an M5 and he would slam on the gas coming out of parking lots and such, and boy did it pin me to the seat. It felt like 5gs pushing me back. The point is, yes as a performance car a V10 would be a huge improvement, but when its a luxury car meant to be cruised in and occasionally let loose, you dont really need all 5.0 liters. IMO.
SubaruKid37
Mar 25, 2004, 4:23 PM
This car is really nice - it was at the Geneva Motorshow and SOO nice! (If you see any pics with red lighting, thats it at the show).
Remember though that the car is concept and may not keep the current statistics. BMW were taking public info at the motorshow to see public opinion to make possible changes - I think the V10 will stay though :D .
http://www.salon-auto.ch/images/dbimages/bmw/concept_m5_3.jpghttp://www.salon-auto.ch/images/dbimages/bmw/concept_m5_2.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/images/dbimages/bmw/concept_m5_1.jpg
Mopar68
Mar 25, 2004, 5:41 PM
i still can't get over those headlights.
NiGiz
Mar 25, 2004, 6:38 PM
The car is going to be released XACTLY as u see it...
mallon
Mar 25, 2004, 7:01 PM
i still can't get over those headlights.
whtas wrong with them?
I cant see anything wrong of hand.
CarRocker
Mar 26, 2004, 10:05 AM
i still can't get over those headlights.
whtas wrong with them?
I cant see anything wrong of hand.
Me neither, i think they look great
igaboj
Mar 27, 2004, 1:04 PM
yeah, i think they look just as good as the old ones, maybe better :)
SubaruKid37
Mar 27, 2004, 4:30 PM
The car is going to be released XACTLY as u see it...
Cool, I can't wait to see it on the roads! :D
MattMerce
Mar 29, 2004, 7:56 PM
Pretty nice, I just hope that V10 sounds better then a Vipers.
vipers sound great, but about the bimmer, it's pretty cool but i'm not crazy about the head and tail lamps
BluCamSS
Mar 29, 2004, 10:27 PM
Pretty nice, I just hope that V10 sounds better then a Vipers.
vipers sound greats
Dude...............have you ever heard one? They sound bad.
MattMerce
Mar 30, 2004, 4:31 PM
everybody has their own opinion :?
Mad_Driver
Mar 31, 2004, 5:43 AM
It´s the first time i post on this forum and it´s curious that the first post it´s about my favorite car in the world, the M5 :D It has always be my favorite because i think it´s impressive the way that BMW makes a super-car with a family capability. Off course that there are much more faster cars, with better dinamic chassi and so on but these car...Jesus...its unbelivuble :shock: as for the engine....no coments :lol:
BmW_Kidd
Apr 01, 2004, 5:21 AM
well bmw is one of the car which comes with their own design ..... everything is cool in this car
SpeedMuse
Apr 07, 2004, 7:25 PM
There is no doupt in my mind that this car will be amazing, but I'm just not a big fan of the new 5 series Beamers. The front end is what really turns me away from the car along with those new-fangled headlights.
Kompressed1
Apr 23, 2004, 3:57 AM
yeah that car is ridicoulous ..i would kill for it...definately is going to kick mercedes ass into another gear
3house
May 05, 2004, 7:59 AM
Pretty nice, I just hope that V10 sounds better then a Vipers.
vipers sound greats
Dude...............have you ever heard one? They sound bad.
For sure a Viper doesn't sound like this;(after 12 seconds swedish :) )
http://www.matfors.net/foppa/kul/E60M5_video.mpg or
http://www.ryefilms.com/tim2/E60M5_video.mpg
And for me a Viper's sound has its own charme
SubaruKid37
May 06, 2004, 7:12 PM
For sure a Viper doesn't sound like this;(after 12 seconds swedish )
http://www.matfors.net/foppa/kul/E60M5_video.mpg or
http://www.ryefilms.com/tim2/E60M5_video.mpg
That engine is soooo nice sounding, I can't stop playing it over and over :lol: :lol: And its in GranTurismo4(Prologue maybe as well :shock: :D )
faisal
May 07, 2004, 8:51 AM
just an amazing car :D
Hydraulic
Aug 29, 2004, 6:20 PM
I feel kinda late saying this, but its something that I just found out recently. The ///M5 is supposed to have seven gears... i just had to say this because i don't know any other cars that go into seventh gear.
M Technik
Aug 29, 2004, 6:39 PM
I feel kinda late saying this, but its something that I just found out recently. The ///M5 is supposed to have seven gears... i just had to say this because i don't know any other cars that go into seventh gear.
First seven-speed SMGIII gearbox. The new MB's have a seven-speed auto gearbox and the Bugatti Veyron will also have a similar system to the BMW.
Hydraulic
Aug 29, 2004, 8:10 PM
That sounds hott!
ViperF556
Aug 29, 2004, 8:55 PM
Very well done BMW ! V10, 500 HP, 490 pound feet of tourqe. That spells desaster
for some super cars, not only will the engine sound better than the " VIPER" like
blucamSS said, it will probebly distroy a " VIPER".
Cant wait till its out.
4 door sedan VS. the two door, super light Viper. And the winner is.... Viper.
Other than that, looks good! :wink:
TYRONN7
Aug 31, 2004, 5:41 PM
No words to describe this car. Simply breath taking. Now i don't know what i would choose btwn this and the M3. I mean sure the M5 is way faster, newer, BETTER at every chapter. But i still don't think it could get me the same satisfaction as a lighter more handling M3. And in a M3 you always have the look of a sleek guy, more racing look i don't know...other look. In a M5, whoooo there comes that spoiled mother ****er in dad's super car. What do you guys think?
M Technik
Sep 01, 2004, 6:03 AM
No words to describe this car. Simply breath taking. Now i don't know what i would choose btwn this and the M3. I mean sure the M5 is way faster, newer, BETTER at every chapter. But i still don't think it could get me the same satisfaction as a lighter more handling M3. And in a M3 you always have the look of a sleek guy, more racing look i don't know...other look. In a M5, whoooo there comes that spoiled mother [censored] in dad's super car. What do you guys think?
I disagree unfortunately. The message I get from M5's are that the people are more mature, and actually have a family to carry around. They are for people who want the best of BMW, the most powerful car in their portfolio. The M3 is for the street-racer, more younger people.
But of course, this is just categorising people, because I'm sure there are many people who don't fit this formula, but that's just what I get from watching these beauties.
jimkk29
Sep 01, 2004, 7:39 AM
I think the M3 is bought by the 30-something wealthy man who is a good driver and has a need for a very good sporty car.
The M5 is bought by the 50-something wealthy family man who also has a need for an excellent sporty car but also needs to transport his family sometimes.
Ghalos
Sep 01, 2004, 10:06 AM
If I had the money for the M5, I'd get an XKR, simply put I like it more than the formless German super-sedan. The M5 I love for it's engineering and sportiness, but until I see some first hand impressions on it I can't really say I love it.
Besides, it's got iDrive and a 7 speed SMG...GIMME A STICK AND CLUTCH!!!!! :evil:
TYRONN7
Sep 01, 2004, 4:21 PM
Besides, it's got iDrive and a 7 speed SMG...GIMME A STICK AND CLUTCH!!!!!
I agree with that also...it should have come with manual as standard and the SMG III as an option.
jimkk29
Sep 03, 2004, 8:14 AM
Indeed, I agree with that. ^
(although the SMG III is awesome)
Veyron
Sep 03, 2004, 8:48 AM
if only I could have the money for this baby..........P.S. I hope they will make M7 it's just 7 series is my favourite
puggles89
Sep 06, 2004, 1:41 PM
I found Information on the car if it has not been added yet. here you go readers. :o I yet have to read it myself.
BMW Concept M5
– The world’s first V10 high-revving engine in a sedan.
– The world’s first 7-speed SMG in a sedan.
– The best power-to-weight ratio in its market segment.
Precisely 20 years have already passed since the BMW M5 established a new segment, which has in the meantime also been discovered by other car manufacturers. And that car – the original – is still by far the most successful player in the high performance sedan segment. Spread over three generations of production, more than 35,000 units were built – initially manually at the BMW M plant in Munich and later at the 5 Series assembly line in Dingolfing. These units were then sold worldwide.
The secret of the BMW M5’s popularity has always been the successful synthesis of unobtrusive yet powerful appearance, combined with a high-performance power unit – a sports car featuring Formula 1 technology and at the same time a sedan offering premium comfort.
In terms of driving dynamics, the BMW M5 had always set standards in its segment. It not only excelled due to its high performance, but due to the way in which M power was produced and developed. It appeared as if this first-rate car’s inexhaustible power reserves had created a totally new dimension in effortlessness.
BMW M5 parameters: Performance, style and driving fun.
Due to the change of model within the 5 Series, the BMW M product portfolio is currently presented without a BMW M5, even though the demand for such a car has never diminished. For this reason, BMW M designers have begun designing a possible successor based on the new BMW 5 Series. This car is a far-reaching concept on an appealing subject: the BMW Concept M5. Such a car could undoubtedly serve as a stimulus and offer solutions for a future series-production vehicle.
Totally in keeping with the high demands of our clientele, whose main reasons for purchasing a car are performance, style and driving fun, the BMW M5 Concept makes its living out of contrasts: the principle of optimal performance wrapped in a discreet but, by comparison with the 5 Series, distinctive body design.
When seen alongside the new 5 Series, the exterior design of the BMW Concept M5 has its very own uniqueness. Modified front and rear air dams and side sills, a slightly lower body, side air vents, an exclusive wheel design as well as the four M-type tailpipes, visually accentuate the vehicle’s claim to being a sports car.
The first V10 high-revving power unit in a sedan.
The heart of every M automobile, and that includes the BMW Concept M5, must be its exclusive high-performance power unit with high-revving air intake technology, an engine which sets a benchmark in this field. With this engine, BMW M is presenting a masterpiece in power unit technology that undoubtedly has just what it takes: the figure 5 is predominant with a 5.0-litre capacity producing around 500 bhp (368 kW) and a maximum torque of at least 500 Nm, these being the kind of figures BMW M considers worthy of a possible new M5.
And the figure ten will also gain in significance, as, for the first time in BMW history, a series-production sedan is to be powered by a ten-cylinder internal combustion engine, the sound and power of which is closely related to the engine currently providing monstrous power to the BMW Williams Formula 1 racing car, without a doubt the most powerful car on the starting grid.
The engine powering the BMW Concept M5 should be in a position to mobilize the enormous power reserves required to assist this unique sports sedan in achieving a remarkable driving performance. Engineers at BMW M envisage the car accelerating from 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62 mph) over the classic distance in well under 5 seconds, the 200 km/h (125 mph) mark being reached in just 13 seconds
It is not power alone that makes an M power unit so unique.
The technology of this newly-developed ten-cylinder engine should not be perceivable by single-dimensional power or sheer performance alone, but first and foremost by the method of achieving such performance. M power featured in the new BMW Concept M5 will once again rise to the occasion and become a perfect example of what is technically feasible and appropriate.
This is evident not only in the extremely appealing design of a BMW high-performance engine. Needless to say, this specially developed BMW M engine incorporates typical features such as high-pressure VANOS, individual throttle butterflies, engine electronics designed by our own engineers and based on knowledge gained from Formula 1 racing as well as traverse force-regulated oil supply.
Moreover, the BMW Concept M5 stands out from others by having the most innovative drive concept in its class. Thanks to a superior gearbox solution, the driver can benefit from a completely new 7-speed SMG, a rapid manual gear-shift and, if required, comfortable cruising. This piece of technical mastery also has its origins in Formula 1 synergism.
Optimum driving behavior, whether in town or on the Nürburgring.
The designers of the BMW Concept M5 were, of course, eager to succeed against competition in building the lightest car, as BMW wishes to continue pursuing the concept of intelligent lightweight construction in order to achieve a high level of longitudinal and lateral dynamics. As seen on the new 5 and 6 Series, BMW has already presented an innovative example of a lightweight front end construction. BMW M engineers aspired to achieve the best power-to-weight ratio in this market segment, thereby fully utilizing their abundant experience in suspension design.
Based on the excellent all-aluminium suspension of the new BMW 5 Series, with the addition of some elements from the new BMW 7 Series, they have designed the BMW Concept M5 for maximum comfort when driving for longer periods on highways or in stop-and-go city traffic, as well as for putting on a good show when racing round the north loop of the Nürburgring. In addition to a specially tuned Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), a variable M-type limited-slip differential, which we are already familiar with from the BMW M3, ensures optimum driving behavior in all situations.
The 9½ inch light-alloy rear wheels, manufactured especially for the BMW Concept M5, boast specially designed, extra wide 285/35 ZR 19 tires. At the front there are 255/40 ZR 19 tires on 8½ inch wheels, controlled by a newly designed Servotronic steering which is fitted as standard. A reinforced braking system developed especially for the BMW Concept M5 enables the driver to fully control the engine’s exceptional performance.
Equipment in a class of its own.
Needless to say, the BMW Concept M5 also offers scores of ideas for equipping the car with particularly exclusive and sporty options. Without going into detail right now, it can be said that the special solutions required to satisfy the demanding customer’s preferences in this particular market segment have been realized.
When exactly the concept of a series-produced M5 will be realized cannot be confirmed at the present time. However, it can be assumed that a successor to the extremely popular BMW M5, based on the BMW Concept M5 now being exhibited, could possibly go on sale during the course of the year 2004
http://www.importspeedsouth.com/autoreleases/bmw/conceptm5-6.jpg
http://www.importspeedsouth.com/autoreleases/bmw/conceptm5-1.jpg
M Technik
Sep 06, 2004, 7:13 PM
This article is for the Concept M5, not the production M5.
jimkk29
Sep 07, 2004, 10:18 AM
Yeah, I guess it's a bit outdated... :lol:
lamborghini_freak_4life
Dec 21, 2004, 4:38 PM
damn hot! People have been doing shitty things to the beemers but i like this one...lol...
maxhim
May 07, 2005, 1:32 PM
The car of my dream... look class, but under the hood....!!!! It'S my car!
KlugherzGT
May 12, 2005, 3:53 AM
I love this car more than most can express, but lets not glorify in to much. Lets not overlook its competition Mercedes Benz C55 AMG : Supercharged V8, 680lbs ! of torque. Im not sure of the official results but the Benz did better in testing, but that was back when all of the M5's test data was a bunch of corporate estimates that were downgraded until official results became available.
Top Secret
May 12, 2005, 4:53 AM
I love this car more than most can express, but lets not glorify in to much. Lets not overlook its competition Mercedes Benz C55 AMG : Supercharged V8, 680lbs ! of torque. Im not sure of the official results but the Benz did better in testing, but that was back when all of the M5's test data was a bunch of corporate estimates that were downgraded until official results became available.
First of all, you mean E55 AMG, not C55.
And no, the E55 does not do better in testing, the M5 comprehensively beats it in every way possible, expect for maybe road comfort and suspension softness.
Mondeo Cosworth
May 12, 2005, 5:02 AM
In retrospect, I think that the S-Type R is better than an E55-AMG, I also like the RS6, but thats too nose heavy and the steering is rubbish. Nice engine tho. The M5 is a very good car, but I think its too good if you know what I mean. It seems cold, too modern like a sheet of aluminium compared to carbon fibre. Don't know if that makes much sense...
Kirstyn
May 12, 2005, 6:18 PM
First of all, you mean E55 AMG, not C55.
And no, the E55 does not do better in testing, the M5 comprehensively beats it in every way possible, expect for maybe road comfort and suspension softness.
I don't know which is faster, but in all the tests I've seen, the M5 is slower to 60 by about .2 seconds
jimkk29
May 12, 2005, 6:55 PM
And you think that's important?
Kirstyn
May 12, 2005, 7:07 PM
....apparently not to you.
I was just pointing something out. sheesh.
jimkk29
May 12, 2005, 7:19 PM
Okay, no need to get upset!
v@nQu!$h~$
Jun 10, 2005, 6:17 AM
An X-cellent car! Nice work BMW! This beast is gonna' eat up most Mercedes-Benz! :) Except for the SL55 AMG and SLR McLaren...hehe
Ghalos
Jun 10, 2005, 9:09 AM
Look at the previous posts' date prior to posting, it's ok to bring up older threads with large posts that are informative, no offense. =)
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