im just wondering, is the new mk5 worth it? like here in the u.s. b/c i might get one and havent read any reviews yet, so anyone wanna lend a hand? http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2003/09/francfort/imagenes/novedades/volkswagen/golf_tdi/vw_golf_gti_1_xxl.jpg

I think it's pretty sweet. 200 hp turbocharged inline-4, and 207 lb-ft of torque from 1800 rpm - 5000 rpm <- awesome torque curve.
here's a review:
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/coupes/0412_vw_gti/
http://www.vw.com

You should also check out the new R32:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-2006-Volkswagen-VW-R32.htm

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http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4402/06r323jx.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06r323jx.jpg)

Huh ??
So fast they make a new Golf ??
Anyone help plz...
Isit new or old ??
We've already heard of it alot of times ain't ??

Huh ??
So fast they make a new Golf ??
Anyone help plz...
Isit new or old ??
We've already heard of it alot of times ain't ??

This is essentially the current generation golf that debuted in 2005, only turbocharged now.

Very nice...VW might be making some good choices..

NOW!! all they need to do is make a R32 version of this...and i'll considering buying a VAG Turd..

whats the pricing for the r32? the new one of course

they did Drifter but isn't coming to the states. the photos were poste on the first reply......

Very nice...VW might be making some good choices..

NOW!! all they need to do is make a R32 version of this...and i'll considering buying a VAG Turd..

It is coming from what I hear, but it will not be called the R32. Instead it will be the R36. And it will have upwards of 280-300 hp. This isnt until '08 at least though.

i really like it. i'm guarenteed once you test drive it you'll like it.

It is coming from what I hear, but it will not be called the R32. Instead it will be the R36. And it will have upwards of 280-300 hp. This isnt until '08 at least though.

the new r32 is out. look at the second post(first reply).

the R36 is the "american version" of the actual nedw R32 but with the pasatt v6 engine making 280-300hp to be released in 07-08........

the new r32 is out. look at the second post(first reply).

the R36 is the "american version" of the actual nedw R32 but with the pasatt v6 engine making 280-300hp to be released in 07-08........

Yea I know the new R32 is out, but like you said, only in Europe and not to be released in the US. I was just saying that the US will instead be seeing the R36 in the near future.

I didnt know that they were going to use the Passat V6 though, I just knew it would be some sort of V6. This is interesting.

yep. just have to wait a few years.

IMO the new R32 doesnt have that ''look'' of the older R32 and seems a bit soft..

Ohh...sorry for the Misunderstanding...

The new GTI I'm pretty sure is worth it. It's loads better then the old one, which as just a big, fat and slow embarrasment to the GTI badge.

The new one is really great and fun too.

I've heard the R32 provides less in the fun departmen, mainly because it has 4WD and thus you wont get all that tail out action, instead you'll be able to push it to it's limits.

does anyone know when this generation of the GTi came to Canada? I only saw one recently although I knew this generation came out last year...Here they still sell the older generations of the golf but the new generation of the GTi, I just checked the site...

The current generation VW Golf weighs twice as much as the Golf 1.
The Golf 1 GTI had 150 HP. 300 HP on the current Golf won't be producing anything we haven't seen before.

really? 1. series had only 700kg? I was thinking its about 900kg.
Anyway Golf 1 gti was adventure to drive..now it all so soficticated there lack real feel of speed.

The current generation VW Golf weighs twice as much as the Golf 1.
The Golf 1 GTI had 150 HP. 300 HP on the current Golf won't be producing anything we haven't seen before.

the first GTI had 110 HP.

Eh..nevermind..The R32 is a dissappointment..

The GTi seems like a better car than the R32...which is completely back asswards of the past gen..

The last R32 made you WANT a R32..this one is kinda like..
"eh, it's not worth the extra....6 grand+"

the first GTI had 110 HP.

yeah, weighing half was being a bit rude, yet the car was sub 1000 kilo and the current one is over 1500 kilo. Adding a little weight I don't mind but adding over half of the cars weight again is way beyond what I see as acceptable.

I wasn't quite sure about the 150 HP. Was it the golf GTI MK 2 that had 150 HP then?

Yeah, anyways, still can't give a fart about any new VW golf being produced as long as they keep gaining weight.

^I hear its because for the money it isnt better enough than the GTI to justify buying it. Ive never seen a R32 here they are so rare, ferraris are more common

well the old r32 was really nice sounding when it pulled out of anywhere and yes, it is a bit softer looking than the old one. well first theres the body kit which isnt bad but a bit funny looking, and then it just looks a couple centimeters taller than the last one. R36 looks like something to look into i guess

WORTH IT??
It certainly is. It's meant to be absolutely great to drive, with barely noticable turbo lag and an engine that gives the impression of being a six when it's only a four! And that's forgetting the DSG gearbox that you can have. It also looks great (with some of the most gorgeous alloys available on any car today) and that lovely retro GTI badge on the front. It has a nice interior, with more retro touches in the tartan seats, and is all in all probably the best hot hatch you can buy.
Unless you can stretch to the R32...

well if i get one, which i probably will instead of the si, should i get the auto with DSG or manual?

The DSG is a very good award winnig transmition but I'd still take the good old stick shift over it.

well if i get one, which i probably will instead of the si, should i get the auto with DSG or manual?

Go with your own preference on this one, the VAG DSG system is the only paddle-shift system that I've heard about without any bad reviews. It's apparently the perfect paddle shift system.

I went to a VW dealer today and they had the GTI. It's a nice car.....25K for the one I saw.

i saw an old R32.. the 1 older then the one that just came out.. it looked beasty... low.. fat .. big rims..(looked like 18's).. but wat pi**ed me off is that the guy had roof racks.. and had a bike on the roof...

I own a Honda Civic Type-R, It will destroy the new Golf GTI easily, It can match the Golf R32 as well, wake up America................

Volkswagen annouced the new R32 engine to deliver 250 hp.
Wrong news cause Evo mag, while testing the car, was able to find that the total power of the car was around 217 hp! [-X

Anyway I think it's a great car!

:driving

^ Wow, but did VW know about it? Maybe Evo Magazine made a mistake?

Volkswagen annouced the new R32 engine to deliver 250 hp.
Wrong news cause Evo mag, while testing the car, was able to find that the total power of the car was around 217 hp! [-X

Anyway I think it's a great car!

:driving

You have to realise that Volkswagen quotes engine power from the flywheel, and EVO test the engine figures from the wheels - there would be a slight power drop.

^But it stills aounds like VW were bending the truth a bit.
Does it really take 33HP to spin the drivetrain.
If it wern't AWD I would be suspicious.

You'd be suprised just how much driveline losses are. It's something like 13% of the flywheel-quoted power.

Which, using my handy-dandy TI-83, is 217.5HP.

Wow I never knew they lost so much power.

do all manufacturers measure from the flywheel then?

Yes. They use a special engine dyno to gain official specs of a car.

I read somewhere manual gearbox+diferentical have about 85-90% of efishency so 10-15% goest to waste. With automatic gearbox up to 20% can be lost.

Yeah, all car companies measure from the flywheel and we all measure from the wheels usually when comparing dyno runs. My car has 240 hp at the crank but only about 210-215 hp at the wheels.

o wow thats some news for ya. i had no idea. its like when the TL first came out. pops got it like the 2nd week it was released and thought it had like 270 hp... turned out it was around 258-260
ehh but still awsome car
anyway, thats a massive power loss to the wheels. im gonna go to VW soon and check it out first hand. PS: any road test reviews done by anyone here?

o wow thats some news for ya. i had no idea. its like when the TL first came out. pops got it like the 2nd week it was released and thought it had like 270 hp... turned out it was around 258-260
ehh but still awsome car
anyway, thats a massive power loss to the wheels. im gonna go to VW soon and check it out first hand. PS: any road test reviews done by anyone here?

A guy on my VW forum did a road review. If I can find it I will post it. And all cars have that power loss through the drive train, just so you dont think its a VW specific thing.

Thats why some people get carbon fiber drive shafts, and lightened flywheels. They not only help the engine accelerate faster, but since there is less weight for the motor to turn more power gets to the ground.

*Edit*
Found the thread. Haha, its a really short description but if you read on you might get more info on it. Or join and ask on the site.
http://vwworld.forumup.org/viewtopic.php?t=395&mforum=vwworld&sid=cb17f789c0d1b0309ffc1404500de461

im just wondering, is the new mk5 worth it? like here in the u.s. b/c i might get one and havent read any reviews yet, so anyone wanna lend a hand? http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2003/09/francfort/imagenes/novedades/volkswagen/golf_tdi/vw_golf_gti_1_xxl.jpg

I'm sorry Americans, but you're missing out. Here in the UK, our MK5 Golf GTi's go 153mph, but for the American market, they will be limited to just 130mph.

I'm sorry Americans, but you're missing out. Here in the UK, our MK5 Golf GTi's go 153mph, but for the American market, they will be limited to just 130mph.

Thats what they've always been limited to here in the US. Or at least in that area, cause my Jetta would hit the speed limiter at 135mph.

usually 150ish but i guess vw has it at 130's??
well the other forum helped a bit... exept when the RS6 came up and about
i really think to loooong when i get to buying cars. sometimes takes weeks or months

usually 150ish but i guess vw has it at 130's??
well the other forum helped a bit... exept when the RS6 came up and about
i really think to loooong when i get to buying cars. sometimes takes weeks or months

Yea, that topic got off on a major tangent. Yea, most European cars are limited at 155, but for some reason VW has it at 130.

I drove GTI today, new one, feeling is great, I drove it only 5 minutes and I allmoust cryed when I must stop driving and it was hard to seperate from car,

I can't wait any chanse to drive it ot something like it