i wana know what your opinion is towards imports and domestic cars........

What do you mean "domestic"?? Depends on the country you're from. :?

Yeah, be more specific dude.. :wink:

hahah.....didnt realize other countries are in here.....american cars vs. japanese cars.......aite so tell me your opinon....

Well, there are some good American cars, but on the whole, they cannot be compared to European or Japanese models... So, the "imports" as you name them, are way better.

:evil: Never compare the two there are pros and cons that you couldent even believe two both. they are both great types of cars. i pick no favorites iknow all there is pretty much and as long as its fast and proves its worth it gets my approval :twisted:

The best cars In the world are German and Japanese. :wink:

i agree with sportmotori that german cars are the best like BMW Audi ...
there more nice than americain cars, americain cars only have big engine's and a lot have torque but german cars there nice and fast and japannise cars i like than because there easy to bust (modified) like the civic very easy the bust :twisted: :twisted:

American cars are more based on brute power (big displacement, low hp/liter)

But for me, the saying "power is nothing without control" is pretty true, so I would rather go with a European or Jap car.

New cars from both shores now? The US will make 50 diffrent SUV's, 25 diffrent Trucks, 20 Diffrent Sedans(Saloons), then maybe 5 diffrent economy cars for every nice performing car, regardless of pricerange. The cars that are Imported to the Americas have much better line ups, what I find as superior engineering, and can be had at very compareable prices. More great-awesome cars per capita than United States cars by far.

Back in the day(50's-70's), Detroit had a definite step up on most everyone else with powerful and beatutiful cars until gas 'shortages' and stupid ass emission restrictions. Boxes with wheels started to be pumped out with very weak low displacement engines that retained much of the low output/liter characteristics of the older cars. Most US manufacturers refused to let go of the old ways(BIG IS GOOOOOD) and evolve with the times and subsiquently have been eating everyones automotive dust for the last 30 some odd years. Imports to our country have been superior products and still hold many many advantages over the 'bread and butter' domestic cars. Show me a 'good' affordable drop top American speedster (Mustang, right?) and I'll show you an ancient cut and paste POS. (no offense to SVT Cobras and Saleens) Show me an excellent and outstanding Foerign car and I'll show you a totally freshly designed affordable sports coupe of pure race bred engineering that can beat the pants off 90% of all cars on the road today 8) (S2000 baby!) 8)

that's well said.
Its strange how american car markes still hang onto outdatesd technology. Especially since they have the most resources/money to be researching newer technologies.
- so it must be the american people right? they must still want big displacement low mpg 'muscle' cars (every american sports car apart from the ones europeans designed) as opposed to more refined lower displacement euro/japanese (S2000/RX7 e.t.c.)

I still don't understand this american way of thought. Raith83 and mallon are sooo right.

I guess they want to be more traditional (NASCARs are still using 4 speeds for crying out loud :!: :!: :!: )

4 speeds?? :? Come on... F1 cars have a 7-speed gearbox! :shock:

but I think that's more to do with the fact that, in F1cars are constantly accelerating and decelerating and need to get to peak RPM quickly. Whilst in NASCAR the cars are more or less at the same speed, and therefore not needing comlicated gearboxes with more than 4 gears.

Yeah it should be that, but still, 4-speed gearboxes are way outdated.

in production cars and in F1, but in Nascar they do just fine!

Maybe because NASCAR is itself an outdated race?

I dunno....

NASCAR has been around as long as F1, but I think back then F1 cars where still advanced for their time (and NASCARs probably had 2 speeds :D :D )

LOL :lol: :lol:

NASCAR was outdated 30 years ago. I could go on and on disscussing why F1 is better than NASCAR, but this isn't what the post question is asking. On the subject of Import and domestic cars. The answer is simple. Modern import cars are obiously of better quality and they are cheaper. They also have excellent performace. I think the reason american cars aren't better is not because they are outdated, it's because almost half of the sales of U.S. companies are truck related. They don't need to have good quality cars. Also, chysler, GM and ford all own parts of some japanese manufacturers. GM owns a very small part of Honda, Ford owns a very big part of Mazda, and Chysler owns a large amount of Mitsubishi. But this has only been true for the past couple of years. During the 70's and 80's and early 90's, nobody had a strong hold on the automotive industry. American cars were big and slow, japanese car were ugly and underpowered and european cars were leaky and unreliable. But during the for 50+ years before that, america was the king of cars. Big, comfertable, powerful, reliable, good looking and pretty inexpensive. Jap cars didn't even show up till the 70's. European cars were expensive, underpowered and small cars. The only advantage european cars had is they had good handling. This didn't matter though in the ameican infastructure. They didn't need a good handling car because they had long straight highways. But, due to the gas crisis, like Raith83 said, american cars went downhill and the rise of the imports started.

So, it depends on what car your talking about and what era your talking about. If your talking about the focus SVT againt the civic Si, i'd take the focus. If i had a choice between a mercury marauder or a BMW 530i, i'd take the marauder. If i has a choice between a mustang and a Mitsubishi Evo, i'd take the Evo. Overall, i'd probaly american cars.

From what Mopar has posted, I have to say lots of things. But to make all of those things short, I say true :D

I pick American cars any day. Look at the Viper, the Vette, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, Charger, and Gto to name a few. American cars are much faster even they aren't safe don't turn good. You just cant beat American muscle.

Japs and Euros look and handle far better

I think both asians and americans are okay.....

But if I was to choose between either an american or asian car, I'd pick an asian (hey, it's an asian thing :wink: )

Honda's Or Ford's Ford Owners Hate My Civic And I Hate Their Outdated Mustangs Overall Show Me A Good Stang And I'll Change My Mind

Are da outdated stangs at least restored :?: :?: :?:

If they're not, they're all stupid posers and you can go ahead and burn their asses :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Actually, I think that they shouldn't be talking..................

I think they're just jealous that they can't get a new stang and that you have a brand new civic (it's new, right :?: :?: :?: )

I pick American cars any day. Look at the Viper, the Vette, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, Charger, and Gto to name a few. American cars are much faster even they aren't safe don't turn good. You just cant beat American muscle.
Um, That last sentence is definitly up for argument, but this forum is getting long in the tooth as it is. Wheres the American Muscle now though? The comprable ones have pretty high price ranges and for the same price you can have MUCH better cars. And I mean in every way, straightline racing, cornering, build quality, and engineering. Thats the most unisightful post I've ever seen.

lol :D :D :D :D :D ...................

mustang's still here. for $34,000 the svt cobra is just as fast as an $80,000 maserati. a $50,000 vette z06 can burn japans $90,000 skyline. there' american muscle now

American cars are so cheaper there because you don't have export taxes and your government favourises and supports American products. Otherwise, American cars are at the same price range, if not more expensive, than other cars, if you look at prices in other countries.

American cars are so cheaper there because you don't have export taxes and your government favourises and supports American products. Otherwise, American cars are at the same price range, if not more expensive, than other cars, if you look at prices in other countries.

I dont think you are right there Jim...

The examples that Matt gave are cheaper because they just are. Its like saying european cars are cheaper than australian cars because the Renault Clio is cheaper than the Holden GTS.
Of course a maserati is goign to be more expensie than a Ford, it says nothing about the countries they come from, it only says when you buy a maserati you pay for a name.

no mallon, jim here is right. the only reason the skyline is expensive is because of the tariffs they put on it to be imported. united states is scared of the skyline in that its faster so if they put a big ass tariff on it then no one would wana buy it. but if the corvette was in japan.......i bet most skylines would kill it with its mods up to 50g.

i see whta you are saying but that isnt what Jim is saying.

the skyline would be an example of improting a car to america - hes talking about exporting cars from america.

If anyone tried to import a Mustang or a Viper here, it would probably be more expensive than the Maserati... Especially the Viper.

If anyone tried to import a Mustang or a Viper here, it would probably be more expensive than the Maserati... Especially the Viper.

exactly, above you said that american cars are cheaper!

lets just put it this way, if you buy say a...... Honda accord or Chevrolet impala which car do you still see running 10 or 20 years down the road

hahah....yea...true that.........we know the obvious choice.......

If anyone tried to import a Mustang or a Viper here, it would probably be more expensive than the Maserati... Especially the Viper.

exactly, above you said that american cars are cheaper!
I said that american cars are cheaper only in America. Everywhere else they're pretty expensive.

Yeh, like how a Honda is pretty expensive here in da US while and American car is much cheaper.

Jim :arrow: I've been hearing rumors from Dodge and they say that they might export the Viper to the Euro area on Ferrari's and Porches's own turf................

No offense, Viper lovers (and I'm one of em), but it's gonna get its ass beat. I mean, come on :!: :!: :!: Europe's the birth place of Ferrari, Porsche, etc. It seems suicidal to me going up against 6+ supercar makers on their own motherland...

Yes...
Even if they do export it, and even though it is good, it just won't sell.

haha yea majority wont buy a viper.....and who said hondas were expensive..........????

i love the viper but i agree with riceboy.europeans arent familar with it

importistt :arrow: ok, maybe I was typing too fast, but does an Acura count as a Honda?

But if the Viper wants to get a good hold on the European market, they need to wait until more American manufacturers go into making different sports cars (or an already manufacturing sports car maker can make more different types). After several more sports cars are made by different American companies, go export all of the cars at the same time. I think this is what the European sports car makers sort of did w/ the US, and it's bound to work wid Europe.

And that's why Porsches, Ferraris (maybe), etc. are selling pretty well in the US, because there is such a wide range of types of sports cars to choose from, and everyone wants them all :D :D :D

Ok, maybe this doesn't all make sense (I'm on a cruise and I'm not really thinking that much :D ) but I hope you got the picture :D

uhh.......ok elaborate a lil.........does plymouth count as dodge??????

yeh, very elaborate :P

Anywayz, does Plymouth still make stuff :?: :?: :?:

Plymouth does not still make stuff. If it did, I wouldn't count it as domestic because Chrysler is now owned by Diamler. In the US, imports are way better than domestics, BTW.

Chrysler still counts as American

Correction German-American

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