My mum (i'm only 11) insists that there is a car called a zastava.

Is there one :?

My mum (i'm only 11) insists that there is a car called a zastava.

Is there one :?

yup its a car made by yugo -bloody dreadful car as im sure you can imagine

My mum will have a big head now :lol: Thanks for telling me.Yugos are awful you're right.

My brother used to have one :oops: it used to struggle to get in to car parks that had steep ramps to the higher levels.... :lol:

if any of you know the '70 fiat 600 or it's predecesor the fiat 500, then imagine a car that looks the same but is awfully worst in terms of manufacturing

Just a bit of info. There making a new Fiat 500.
I'll try and get some pictures.

My mum (i'm only 11) insists that there is a car called a zastava.

Is there one :?

yup its a car made by yugo -bloody dreadful car as im sure you can imagineActually, the companys name is Zastava, and Yugo is the model name.

here's one picture of the fiat 500 "of the future"

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_5/car_portal_pic_2820.jpg?3509

I got that info from Auto Express and that is the one since it's from the Auto Express website.

this fiat looks damn ugly, what is it with the side windows!!!

here's one picture of the fiat 500 "of the future"

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_5/car_portal_pic_2820.jpg?3509

That isn't the new Fiat 500.
This is the new Fiat 500:
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/4058.jpg

Dont like it at all dont think i would feel safe in some thing that small...
And its still damn ugly ..

you're right, thats the new one, the strange thing is that I perfomed a search with the word fiat 500 and that ugly car came in the list as the Fiat 500 of the future.

That is the one.

My mum (i'm only 11) insists that there is a car called a zastava.

Is there one :?

yup its a car made by yugo -bloody dreadful car as im sure you can imagineActually, the companys name is Zastava, and Yugo is the model name.

eh????
Yuogo and Zastava that jointly make cars. Yugo is not a model.

He's right Yugo is a manafacturer.

No guys...
Company: Zastava
Car: Yugo

No jimkk29
Manafacturer:Yugo
Car:Zastava :lol:

So let me get this straight, Yugo is the model not the make????
I always thought Yugo was the make and they had other models.
Oh well Yugo sucks anyway lol.

This is confusing :?

No guys...
Company: Zastava
Car: Yugo

Think he's right
Look at this site:
http://www.autobrochures.nl/list_folders.php?u_input%5B%5D=Zastava
You see on the right Merk(company), next to it you see Type(car) So i think Jim is right

He is right
Zastava Yugo

For the 3rd time:

Company = Zastava
Model = Yugo

!!!!!!!

but yugo jointly made this car and so you can really call it the model - it got the name from Yugo the manufactorer is all im saying

For the 3rd time:

Company = Zastava
Model = Yugo

!!!!!!!

That's what i say. You're right!!!

:? my brain hurts :?

all i kno is that the crappy car is simply reffered to as the "yugo" around here so i wouldn't kno much other than it's crap on wheels :roll:

:shock: and for god's sake, that fiat is downright ugly as well. Kind of a bubble look on the second one and the front reminds me of a (i can never spell this right) dihatsu copen.

:shock: The red one has the absolute ugliest rear windows i've seen...sry, i gotta find myself a garbage can before it's too late....*BLECH*

:? my brain hurts :?

all i kno is that the crappy car is simply reffered to as the "yugo" around here so i wouldn't kno much other than it's crap on wheels :roll:

:shock: and for god's sake, that fiat is downright ugly as well. Kind of a bubble look on the second one and the front reminds me of a (i can never spell this right) dihatsu copen.

:shock: The red one has the absolute ugliest rear windows i've seen...sry, i gotta find myself a garbage can before it's too late....*BLECH*
I agree... :) :) :)

:lol: even tho it would be extremely difficult to manage, they should make some sort of limit as to how ugly ur concept car can be.....the red one was just ugly, but i guess that second one may at least appeal to the "cute" crowd....i'm still recovering and having dry heaves thanx to that awful thing.... :roll: :lol: :?

ps- did anyone notice that on the second car, the headrests look exactly like giant white smarties candies :?: :lol: (if they were edible i can at least see one benefit to owning that car....it'd be one expensive piece of candy tho :roll: )

but yugo jointly made this car and so you can really call it the model - it got the name from Yugo the manufactorer is all im saying
I didn't understand what you just said... :?
There is no "yugo" manufacturer, yugo is just a model name, like "skyline" or "camaro" or "GT3" or "murcielago" etc.

where I live yugo came in as an independente manufacturer, its something like general motors and for example pontiac, pontiac has its own independent models and brand but its still under the direction of GM, such thing happens with zastava and yugo, zastava would be GM and yugo would be pontiac. i know this because in the first years of the 90's a lot of weird east cars manufacturers came in here.

company is zastava, later in late 80`s was renamed to yugo.
some models:
zastava 101
http://freeweb.deltha.hu/zastava.in.hu/z1.jpg
and later yugo skala
http://www.zastava-yugo.de/garbage/122188/417430.jpg

zastava 128,
http://www.madeinserbia.co.yu/photo/c34_p90.jpg
later yugo 128 skala
http://www.zpk.co.yu/istorija_files/1988_files/yugo_128_skala_55.jpg

zastava 750 olso known as fico
http://www.zpk.co.yu/istorija_files/fica_files/fica02.jpg

yugo florida
http://www.zpk.co.yu/istorija_files/proizvodnja_automobila_files/FLORIDA.jpg

zastava yugo later known as yugo koral
http://www.srpska.ru/articles/428/yugo2.jpg

all zastava cars were based on old fiat models, like 750, 128....


short history of zastava
The ancestor of the factory was a cannon-casting plant, founded in 1853.

The first vehicles in Kragujevac were Ford trucks. They were made exclusively for the Yugoslavian Army in the late 30's, since today's "Zastava" was a gun factory named Vojno-Tehnicki Zavod (Army Technical Institute). A small number of vehicles was made until the outbreak the war in 1941. Then in the early 50's some number of Jeeps was made, but the deal with Willys-Overland (Chrysler) went off, and the production stopped.

After the 2nd world war the factory got a new name: Zavodi Crvena Zastava (means: "Red Flag Plant"). (Later the "Crvena" has left from the name.) It first started building passenger cars in 1954. The first Zastava cars were varients of the Fiat 1400, 1300 and 1900. In the same period, Zastava introduced another car. It was 1300 cm3 four door sedan, known in Italy as "Milletrecciento", it was a modern car at that time. (FIAT introduced it in 1961.) Many people in Yugoslavia think it was the best car ever made by Zastava, despite to the fact it is forty years old model.

Next came the Zastava 750. It was same as the FIAT 600D, (4cyl, 767 cm3 , 25 HP OHC engine, rear wheel drive). Its mass production started in the early sixties, it was in production until 1981.

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750 (1962) Throughout the 60's Zastava built more Fiat based cars that evolved from the 1100, 1300, 1500, 124, and 125 Fiat models. But FIAT 124 and 125 were never built in Yugoslavia. FIAT 125 was imported from Italy and later from Poland. FIAT 124 was very rare in Yugoslavia. Some other FIATs were also on Yugoslav market, but I am not sure if they were imported, assembled or built by Zastava. It was the original 600 cm3 version of 600D and FIAT Multipla based model 600.

The years1970 (http://The%20years1970) In the beginning of the seventies Zastava made another arrangement with FIAT. In 1971 Zastava introduced the Zastava 101 (4cyl, 1116 cm3 OHC, 55HP, front wheel drive), which is based on FIAT 128. It had a restyled rear panel, and later became available as a hatch back, a style that had not been issued in Italy. It was said that model 101 should be produced in Yugoslavia for both Yugoslav and Italian market, and vice versa, in the Italian market is marked as Innocienti. This car was much worse than it's predecessors. It was not made under FIAT's license, but by some other sort of agreement. Without strict quality control, a car turned out to be disaster. In Yugoslavia, people used to say: "You need at least three years to fix everything that morons in the factory had screwed, and after that it is about the time to sell the car." Despite of it's poor quality it was widely spread in Yugoslavia. This market was always hungry for the new cars. People used to buy it because of it's moderate price, cheap spare parts and low maintenance cost.

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128 (Skala 55C) (1980) In the middle of the seventies, Zastava management decided to develop a new model, based on FIAT engine. It was supposed to be called Zastava 102, but later on in 1981 it was presented as Yugo 45. It was styled by Zastava with help by the FIAT engineers, and it was related to the Fiat 127, but different in appearance. Examples were made with the 903cc, 1100cc, and 1300cc engines. The 1100cc and the 1300cc versions were sold in the USA as the Yugo GV, GVL, GVS, GVX, GV Plus, and the Cabrio.

Later in the eighties, there were a lot of versions and modifications. The most important are five speed gearbox and FIAT 128 1100 cm3 and 1300 cm3 engine.

The factory started to make trucks, which were based on IVECO licence. The names of the passenger cars are changed from Zastava to Yugo. The Yugo 45 named as Yugo Koral (in the European markets), the Zastava GTL (the Fiat 128 clone) named to Yugo Skala.

In 1988 the new Yugo model was shown, called Florida (Sana in some countries).

It's exterior designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro, its shape is similar to Fiat Tipo or Citroen ZX.

In the best years the factory assembled 230000 cars a year, the cars were sold in 70 countries, 27000 were exported to the western countries.



The years1990 (http://The%20years1990) In the early 90's, when Yugoslavia was in war the export fallen. The production of the factory were unstable, because NATO bombed the Zastava plant. But these events weren't interrupted the factory, it was working in three shifts even during the NATO bombing. (Zastava is working continuously since the factory was built.) The managers removed all from the factory in last moment, before the bombings started, but unfortunately the buildings of the factory has damaged.

The export were impossible these years, because of the trade sanctions against Yugoslavia. Between 1992 and 1995 it was under UN sanctions, and then between 1998 and 2000 it was under EU and US sanctions. The export was possible only trough Montenegro to Slovenia, which was not member of these organizations.



The years2000 (http://The%20years2000) After the war, there were trade talks to Hungarian firms, to assemble Yugos in Hungary, but this agreement haven't been concluded because of hesitating of the Yugoslavian partner. (But Zastava trucks are assembling in Hungary, near to Pécs, with IVECO engine.)

Yugos had been face-lifted, the new versions are introduced in the Belgrade motor show. New Yugo has 1,3l 80HP motor with BOSCH injection, the transmission designed by Porsche, slightly new internal and external design, improved safety, and lots of details.

The new generation of Yugo has FIA certificat, so it's complaint with European standards. It is most likely, that Yugo will return to European and even American market.

When in 2000 October Vojislav Kostunica (who also a Yugo owner) become the new president of Yugoslavia, the sanctions against Yugoslavia are lifted, so the export will be possible.

Now the plant has been rebuilt, only the computer center left in damage. The production of Zastava start to increase slowly. In 2000 factory produced 15000 car, from this 4000 were exported.

With the Fiat the prototype of Yugo Florida 2.0 made, with the engine of Fiat Bravo 2.0.

By the end of 2002 the Zastava plans to launch three new models. If everything go well, first prototype of Yugo based model Koral comes by the end of this year.




p.s.: yugo is legendary car, you can not destroy this car :D
i live in slovenia, until 91 we were in yugoslavia and we had only zastava (and some vw golf-s and lada-s)

i must say zastava was 30years behind other car makers in year 1980, now zastava is 45 year behind :D they are stil making yugo, the car is almoast the same as first model, "new" model have some styling touches and "new" engine http://www.zastava-yugo.de/garbage/122188/439860.jpg


btw zastava mean "flag"

I think that may have been the single most informative post I've ever read. Too bad it's such an obscure topic...

hehe, you wrote all the history of Zastava in one post, thnx for the information yugoman.

I myself am a fan of Zastava and Yugo cars.